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Some Texas state lawmakers call for stricter gun laws after church shooting
Guns.com ^ | 11/12/17 | Andrew Shepperson

Posted on 11/12/2017 7:51:31 AM PST by Simon Green

(Texas State Reps. Poncho Nevarez, Gina Hinojosa and Nicole Collier called for stricter gun regulations at a Wednesday press conference.)

Some members of the Texas state Legislature are now calling for stricter gun laws after a lone gunman shot and killed at least 26 people at a Baptist church in Sutherland Springs on Sunday.

Democratic state Reps. Nicole Collier, Poncho Nevarez, Ramon Romero Jr. and Gina Hinojosa spoke out at a Wednesday news conference organized by gun control group Texas Gun Sense and urged fellow legislators to treat gun violence as a public health issue and to impose stricter gun laws in the state.

“It’s incumbent on the thoughts and prayers brigade to start looking at what we’re going to do for the next shooting because there’s going to be another one,” said Nevarez, D-Eagle Pass. “You know, what about those folks at the football game or the concert or the recital. What are we doing about that? So, it’s really easy to look back and say none of the laws we have in place or none of the background checks could have stopped this. OK, but what about the next one?”

Nevarez also characterized Texas’s open carry law as an “oddity” that should be repealed, arguing that only law enforcement personnel should be able to carry long rifles out in the open.

Collier called on state leaders to declare gun violence an issue of public health and criticized those, including President Donald Trump, who have focused solely on mental health issues after the shooting. While she admitted mental health does often play a role in such attacks, she said leaders should also look to restrict access to high powered weaponry.

“If any other consumer product resulted in a fraction of the injuries and deaths [that guns do],” Collier said, “we would be scrambling to find solutions.”

While some called for tighter gun regulations, the Air Force admitted Monday that it did not report shooter Devin Patrick Kelley’s 2012 conviction for domestic violence against his wife and stepson to the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

If Kelley’s crimes had been reported, the conviction should have prevented him from purchasing the firearms used in the attack, a fact that Texas Gov. Gregg Abbott has pointed out in the wake of the shooting.

“So how was it that he was able to get a gun? By all the facts that we seem to know, he was not supposed to have access to a gun,” Abbott said on CNN Tuesday. “So how did this happen?"


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Once again, the .223 is described as "high powered". I've even seen recent editorials calling for all firearms that can shoot such an "insanely powerful" cartridge to be banned.

Their goal is total civilian disarmament, one "common sense" step at a time.

1 posted on 11/12/2017 7:51:31 AM PST by Simon Green
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To: Simon Green

Where’s that weirdo who is trying to impeach Trump?


2 posted on 11/12/2017 7:53:56 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Well they are not very bright, and it isn’t going to proceed the way that they envision.


3 posted on 11/12/2017 7:54:00 AM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: Simon Green

Who? dimoKKKRATS?


4 posted on 11/12/2017 7:59:22 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Simon Green

I noticed no reference as to where they come from. I have a pretty good guess.


5 posted on 11/12/2017 8:00:54 AM PST by ontap
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To: Simon Green

It’s called Devin should have been in prison during the time that the shooting occurred. If the government is crooked enough to give child abusers a slap on the wrist, they cannot be trusted with gun control.


6 posted on 11/12/2017 8:04:41 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Simon Green

It’s called Devin should have been in prison during the time that the shooting occurred. If the government is crooked enough to give child abusers a slap on the wrist, they cannot be trusted with gun control.


7 posted on 11/12/2017 8:04:41 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Blue Jays

I am seeking to determine if any of those three Texas legislators are actually American citizens.

8 posted on 11/12/2017 8:06:56 AM PST by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: Simon Green

They should just pass a law that makes murder illegal. If there is one thing a bad loves to do, it’s following laws.

Seriously, why are so many elected officials so ignorant of reality? Do they take pills? Is there an operation? Statistically there should be more in office with a clue. Something must happen after getting sworn in.


9 posted on 11/12/2017 8:07:12 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: ontap

One from the border, one from Austin and the other Ft Worth, with the exception of Ft Worth you’re talking major liberal. The on from Ft Worth comes from a democrat conclave of Ft Worth!!!


10 posted on 11/12/2017 8:07:56 AM PST by ontap
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To: Dutch Boy

“Seriously, why are so many elected officials so ignorant of reality?”

They aren’t ignorant of reality. Disarming civilians has always been the first step in establishing an authoritarian government. It also pays really well! See my tagline.


11 posted on 11/12/2017 8:13:23 AM PST by Junk Silver ("It's a little hard to herd people onto trains when they're shooting at you." SirLurkedalot)
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To: Simon Green

They refuse to acknowledge that gun laws failed. But more will succeed? How and why?


12 posted on 11/12/2017 8:14:35 AM PST by Spok
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To: Simon Green

Wasn’t the gun. The allowed a convicted violent, psychotic to roam free.

Need tougher mental illness laws.


13 posted on 11/12/2017 8:16:01 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. L)
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To: Simon Green
the Texas state Legislature

Texas Legislate meets every two years for a reason.

14 posted on 11/12/2017 8:18:41 AM PST by hadaclueonce (This time I am Deplorable)
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To: Simon Green
Nevarez also characterized Texas’s open carry law as an “oddity” that should be repealed,

Agreed. You shouldn't need a permit for that.

“If any other consumer product resulted in a fraction of the injuries and deaths [that guns do],” Collier said, “we would be scrambling to find solutions.” “If any other consumer product resulted in a fraction of the injuries and deaths [that guns do],” Collier said, “we would be scrambling to find solutions.”

So when will you be introducing the "General Motors prohibition act"?

15 posted on 11/12/2017 8:27:16 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: hadaclueonce

“Texas Legislature meets every two years for a reason.”

Gideon John Tucker (February 10, 1826 – July 1899) was an American lawyer, newspaper editor and politician. In 1866, as Surrogate of New York, he wrote in a decision of a will case: “No man’s life, liberty or property are safe while the Legislature is in session.”.

Put into Texan: it’s the best way to keep the usual suspects from screwing up everybody else’s life.


16 posted on 11/12/2017 8:30:13 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: hadaclueonce

One of the great things about Texas! We don’t have our idiots always able to pass the legislation of the current crisis. Our Constitution is a mess, but they can’t pass laws wildly hilly without Texans voting on the issue. We also have to have a balanced budget. It ain’t perfect, but these particulars about Texas politics help.


17 posted on 11/12/2017 8:33:31 AM PST by 1scrappymom (No, I am not a Republican. I am a CONSERVATIVE. PROUD ARMY MOM)
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To: Simon Green

Methinks the best approach is always to demand a display of the proposed new law.
Being leftists, one can always know that it’ll be badly thought out with absolutely no thought given to one of the only unimpeachable laws: that of unintended consequences.


18 posted on 11/12/2017 8:34:39 AM PST by Da Coyote
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Thank you for referencing that article Simon Green.

Patriots are reminded that the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment (14A), had included the 2nd Amendment when he read the Bill of Rights as examples of express constitutional protections that 14A applies to the states.

See the 2nd Amendment (Article II) about in the middle of the 2nd column from the page in congressional record which contains Bingham’s speech.

19 posted on 11/12/2017 8:43:47 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Simon Green

The problem is obviously guns in church. Guns shouldn’t be allowed in church. If guns were banned from church then this nut would not have been able to shoot all those people. I have heard this argument even here where it is assumed that in any crowd of locals there will be some carrying and pastors ask their flocks to get permits and carry.


20 posted on 11/12/2017 8:52:21 AM PST by arthurus
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