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Is the Deep State Attempting a Coup?
Powerline ^ | 06 December 2017 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 12/07/2017 8:02:13 AM PST by Lorianne

Administrative employees are nominally subject to the control of those appointed by politicians who have won elections, but Democrats embedded in the federal bureaucracy have proclaimed themselves part of the “resistance” to President Trump, and are using their positions to undermine his administration. Bureaucrats thus frustrate the will of the voters. President Trump has been in office for nearly a year, and has yet to take control over the federal bureaucracy that nominally reports to him.

I agree with Professor Barnett that this is a constitutional crisis. The most powerful branch of today’s government is the Fourth: the permanent federal bureaucracy that is nowhere mentioned in the Constitution. The Trump administration can best be viewed, perhaps, as a struggle to the death between American voters and the federal employees who are paid to serve them.

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And as much as I hate these traitorous scumbags, I hope they come to their senses and it doesn’t come to this.


41 posted on 12/07/2017 8:42:15 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: Lorianne

Fire them ALL, and start over.

That will save some bucks!


42 posted on 12/07/2017 8:45:25 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: RepRivFarm

Question: Who will be the first person you will shoot in this civil war?

_____________________________________________

Rhetorical? Not by me. I’ve often thought that the first of many American enemies that would be taken down in a Civil War would be the media.

Take out their newsrooms and their ability to lie and get their Fake News out, and this country could be saved.


43 posted on 12/07/2017 8:45:42 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: RepRivFarm

Did you ever think that all the wars in the middle east are opening acts?

Our military has learned over the years how to deal with asymetric warfare and block by block incursions in cities.

I do not think our government would be as bound by some Pentagon lawyers’ rules of engagement in the Homeland as they are overseas.

It would be slash and burn, and no prisoners.


44 posted on 12/07/2017 8:47:12 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR

Exactly.

I’m not a leader by any means, but I have been perfecting insubordination all my life. I’m pretty good at it by this point.

I wish others would follow suit.


45 posted on 12/07/2017 8:49:18 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Is the Deep State Attempting another Coup? FIXED


46 posted on 12/07/2017 8:49:41 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
A soft coup that the GOP leadership can is dying to acquiesce to.

Fixed it.

47 posted on 12/07/2017 8:50:49 AM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: Lorianne

“...but I have been perfecting insubordination all my life.”

LOLOL!

Me too!


48 posted on 12/07/2017 8:51:16 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Obama does not run NSA.

Admiral Mike Rogers is in charge of NSA and our military Cyber Command.

He is the brave Admiral who went to President Elect Trump to warn him about the CIA/Brennan and Clapper the cyber thug.

Brennan and Clapper tried to derail President Trump from appointing Admiral Rogers. They failed.

It is a safe bet that Admiral Rogers has been cleaning and getting rid of the Clinton/Bush/Obama thugs left in that agency.

More on the links below:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Current+Director+of+NSA&rlz=1CAACAO_enUS770US770&oq=Current+Director+of+NSA&aqs=chrome..69i57.11833j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Top Obama officials want Rogers removed as NSA chief - USA Today
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/11/19/top-obama...nsa.../94137952/
Nov 19, 2016 - Reports say Defense Secretary Ashton Carter and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper cite several reasons for removing Rogers, who is being considered by President-Elect Donald Trump for Clapper’s job.


49 posted on 12/07/2017 8:52:44 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Build Kate's wall! Keep the illegals and illegal murderers/criminals out of America! MAGA! SLAP!!)
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To: RepRivFarm; WeWaWes
Question: Who will be the first person you will shoot in this civil war? Under whose orders will you shoot?

Question: Assuming you get your question answered, to whom will you relay this?

50 posted on 12/07/2017 8:55:03 AM PST by COBOL2Java (John McCain treats GOP voters like he treated his first wife)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I largely agree with you on the target.

I notice you conveniently left the 2nd question unanswered....under whose orders?

I am not asking the question to be snarky. God help me, I have given this some very serious thought. I may...in my lifetime...have to answer the “to shoot or not to shoot” question myself.

I subscribe to Romans 13, which says that our governments are put in place by God. I believe the American revolution was morally correct because our LOCAL elected government (the Founding Fathers) were urging the fight against the king for our best interests.

What I am struggling with is what that would look like, today. If....say....I am going hunting for Charlie Rose and Matt Lauer types, it would be wrong to just go off on my own and start shooting. Under whose authority?

Does this make any sense? I am trying to resolve a moral issue before I go to war with a shadowy enemy like the “deep state.”


51 posted on 12/07/2017 8:59:01 AM PST by RepRivFarm ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell)
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To: OpusatFR

:) Hello fellow traveler.


52 posted on 12/07/2017 8:59:16 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: RepRivFarm

“Question: Who will be the first person you will shoot in this civil war? Under whose orders will you shoot?”

Are you looking for suggestions?


53 posted on 12/07/2017 9:01:02 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: COBOL2Java

See 51


54 posted on 12/07/2017 9:03:17 AM PST by RepRivFarm ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell)
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To: KrisKrinkle

See 51


55 posted on 12/07/2017 9:03:45 AM PST by RepRivFarm ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell)
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To: BenLurkin

They think we will sit by and let it happen. They don’t expect any consequences. They would be in for a surprise.


56 posted on 12/07/2017 9:03:57 AM PST by bk1000 (I stand with Trump.)
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To: Lorianne

Yes they are trying to overthrow an elected President and I hope each and every one of them has their career ruined, is financially ruined, and is stripped of any pension benefits.

The employees of federal agencies need to understand that bringing partisan politics into civil service will destroy them.


57 posted on 12/07/2017 9:05:05 AM PST by Robert357 ( Dan Rather was discharged as "medically unfit" on May 11, 1954.)
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To: RepRivFarm

“under whose orders?”

I get that question. I do. I strongly suspect there will arise leaders with strong Constitutional values that will act. If so, I will follow.

Secondly, there (like the first Civil War) will be states that will align themselves with the right side. And of course, the wrong side. Fortunately for me, I live in Texas. I have no doubt that freedom loving Texans would make the right choices if ever CWII were to occur.


58 posted on 12/07/2017 9:08:24 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Trump needs to announce a massive layoff of federal employees. About half which includes most of the the upper management.”

Trump needs to pull a Reagan Air Traffic Control move on the FBI, CIA, ..... forget that... entire Gov’t except some military.


59 posted on 12/07/2017 9:14:09 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Travis McGee

The FBI Slut. I bet she loves seeing that :-D


60 posted on 12/07/2017 9:28:50 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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