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Amtrak train was traveling at 80 mph in 30 mph zone, NTSB says
Fox News ^ | 12-19-2017 | Ryan Gaydos

Posted on 12/19/2017 4:07:00 AM PST by servo1969

An Amtrak train that derailed Monday during its inaugural ride on a new line in Washington state was traveling at 80 mph in a 30 mph zone, the National Transportation Safety Board said, citing data recorder information.

Bella Dinh-Zarr, an NTSB board member, said at a news conference late Monday that information from the data recorder in the rear locomotive provided information about the train’s speed.

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A track chart prepared by the Washington State Department of Transportation shows the maximum speed drops from 79 mph to 30 mph for passenger trains just before the tracks curve to cross Interstate 5, which is where the train went off the tracks.

An Amtrak train derailed south of Seattle early Monday, causing "injuries and casualties," according to officials. (Washington State Patrol Trooper Brooke Bova) The chart, dated Feb. 7, was submitted to the Federal Railroad Administration in anticipation of the start of passenger service along a new bypass route that shaves off 10 minutes for the trip between Seattle and Portland, Ore.

Kimberly Reason with Sound Transit, the Seattle-area transit agency that owns the tracks, said speed signs are posted 2 miles before the speed zone changes and just before the speed zone approaching the curve.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 501; amtrak; derailment; i5; lacey; ntsb; oregon; portland; seattle
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To: Dog

A bunch of tort lawyers are going to have a very enriching year.


21 posted on 12/19/2017 4:41:21 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: AppyPappy

“8^)


22 posted on 12/19/2017 4:42:50 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: pinkandgreenmom

Govt. kinda slow to adopt “positive speed control”?


23 posted on 12/19/2017 4:42:52 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: TMA62

Affirmative action?


24 posted on 12/19/2017 4:45:27 AM PST by JohnyBoy (The GOP Senate is intentionally trying to lose the majority.)
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To: servo1969

Mr. LABRAT’s grafitti tag is getting world wide exposure on pics of that overpass. He should be proud of himself.


25 posted on 12/19/2017 4:46:01 AM PST by spiderpig (does whatever a SpiderPig does)
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To: TMA62

High speed rail.

This particular project opted not to install a safety control system. I heard someone on the radio speaking about it during an interview.

Apparently it seems to be optional? But there is a safety mechanism system available that may have prevented this.


26 posted on 12/19/2017 4:46:03 AM PST by EBH ( May God Save the Republic)
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To: Bull Snipe

Who/what was paying the guy running the train?


27 posted on 12/19/2017 4:46:35 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: pinkandgreenmom

A project that cost nine figures only saves 10 to 15 minutes of travel time, and that only when things are running perfectly. If the engineer was told to speed and acquiesced, my bet is that’s why: to avoid giving critics more cause.


28 posted on 12/19/2017 4:49:20 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: Carl Vehse

Probably not. Federal railroad law establishes fixed maximum dollar amounts for claims from incidents like this.


29 posted on 12/19/2017 4:51:15 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: EBH

And pols don’t want to pay for it. Which is why Amtrak needs to be privatized.


30 posted on 12/19/2017 4:51:18 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

I think they call it a news “green-out”...

:-)


31 posted on 12/19/2017 4:51:20 AM PST by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Dog

The Geniuses at Amtrak. Set up a “high speed” passenger train route, and DO it on low speed tracks still having speed-limiting curves. Spent a fortune laying brand new rails and ties, on a route that originally carried wood-burning puffer bellies. And didn’t bother EMPHASISING to the operators, that portions of the route were still low speed.


32 posted on 12/19/2017 4:52:42 AM PST by Tucker39 (Read: Psalm 145. The whole psalm.....aloud; as praise to our God.)
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To: mewzilla

I recall an early article saying that this train had left Seattle 10-15 min. late. Maybe they were desperate to make up time and be reported as “on time” for arrival in Portland???

If so, bad place to try to make up time.....


33 posted on 12/19/2017 4:52:49 AM PST by Enchante (FusionGPS "dirty dossier" scandal links Hillary, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice... "Deep State" is real)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

The pictures don’t show any concrete on the tracks in the area behind the crash—but it is worth a second look by folks on the scene.

I would not trust NTSB or the media to report honestly on this.


34 posted on 12/19/2017 4:53:15 AM PST by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: servo1969

You can see in the overhead picture of the track that it is a tight radius curve coming off of the bridge.


35 posted on 12/19/2017 4:54:08 AM PST by Flick Lives (The FBI - Assassinating Presidents they don't like since 1963.)
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To: Enchante

Late leaving and losing time along the way. 30 minutes late, or would have been if they had arrived. That was the last figure I saw, anyway. I wonder if the guy picked to run the train was picked less for his expertise than his willingness to do what he was told.


36 posted on 12/19/2017 4:55:00 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: Flavious_Maximus
They still are not mentioning the Earth First terror activity? Is this a news blackout?

Why should they talk about terrorism when there’s no indication this was terrorism?

37 posted on 12/19/2017 4:58:08 AM PST by Drew68
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To: mewzilla

Don’t know for sure. Could be AMTRAK directly if it was their crew, could also be BNSF under AMTRAK contract to operate the trains, or could be another AMTRAK contractor paid to operate the trains.


38 posted on 12/19/2017 4:59:44 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe

Thanks! FWIW, I think the entity that signs that guy’s paychecks is going to be in a world of financial hurt if he’s responsible for this.


39 posted on 12/19/2017 5:01:47 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: All

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The sweat and the toil the good and the ground, part of a life of a railroad man.


40 posted on 12/19/2017 5:03:05 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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