[EBH]

Wow...just WOW!

So all those early writers and observers of Islamic slaughter of Christians are racist? Therefore the need for self-defense and military defense against an invading violent pseudo-religion was 'wrong?'

Sorry Mr. Ibrahim, me thinks you have succumbed to lies and deceit. To 'believe' those early texts do not accurately describe the conquests of islam is naive at best and dangerous denial at worst. And the effort you put forth in this piece today is even worse as it twists the truth of the time leading up to the Crusades.

http://www.historyisfascinating.com/2015/02/the-fascinating-history-of-crusades.html

[Bookshelf]

‘In short, the widespread narrative that European views of Muhammad as a “sinister figure,” a “cruel warlord,” and a “lecher and sexual pervert” began as a pretext to justify the late eleventh century Crusade....’

In great part the Crusades can be attributed to the 11th century depredations carried out by Moslems who continually attacked Christians on pilgrimage to the Holy Land.

[carcraft]

When I run into people that claim the Crusades are responsible for the conflict between east and west I like asking “if that is true why did Charles Martel stop the Islamic advance into France and Spain 100 years before the Crusades started?”. Usually I get a blank look and silence.

[paterfamilias]

“Sorry Mr. Ibrahim, me thinks you have succumbed to lies and deceit. To ‘believe’ those early texts do not accurately describe the conquests of islam is naive at best and dangerous denial at worst. And the effort you put forth in this piece today is even worse as it twists the truth of the time leading up to the Crusades.”

Did you actually read the article?

Ibrahim is agreeing with you.

[spacewarp]

I think you and several other posters have misread the article.

He’s not saying the early texts don’t accurately describe things. What he’s saying is those who claim that Islam was this peaceful group that was just sitting around and the “lies” made up by Christians to demonize big Mo were the justification of the attacks of the crusades were deluding themselves. He then goes on to describe in great detail the descriptions and explain that the hatred of Islam was justified by the following quotes, and then laid out a clear cut case as to why the hatred was valid.

He’s being pretty well attacked by a lot of folks here because he’s going about it rather circumspect in stating that it was justified and roundly misunderstood.