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Turkey rejects Trump interpretation of Armenian genocide
Ahval ^ | Apr 25 2018 | none stated

Posted on 04/25/2018 6:39:36 AM PDT by Texas Fossil

The Turkish foreign ministry has issued a rebuttal of U.S. President Donald Trump’s statement on the Armenian genocide.

“We reject the inaccurate expressions and the subjective interpretation of history in the written statement by Mr. Donald Trump, President of the USA, released on 24 April 2018 regarding the events of 1915,” it said.

“In this context, we remind President Trump that during the same period more than 500.000 Muslims were slaughtered as a result of the events in which Armenian insurgents took part.”

It said that Turkey was offering to establish a Joint Historical Commission to research the historical period, which Turkey does not recognise as a genocide.

“Besides all these points, we think it is in line with common sense that the statement made by the US President remained within international legal norms and did not refer to baseless genocide allegations,” the statement concluded.

(Excerpt) Read more at ahvalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armenia; armenian; armeniangenocide; erdogan; genocide; kurdistan; medzyeghern; ottomanempire; receptayyiperdogan; rejects; turkey
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The word "genocide" did not exist when the Armenian Genocide took place. They called it the Metz Yeghérn (“The Great Evil”).

Turkey admits to "some" of the killings, but continues to refuse the label that is synonyms with Armenian's. If you say "Armenian" the next word that comes to mind is "Genocide". But Turkey says there were 500,000 muslims killed also during WWI, so it was understandable that 1.5 Million Armenian civilians were slaughtered?

Denial does not change what happened, but Turkey "rejects" President Trump's interpretation of the Armenian Genocide.

Scratch head? OH, we cannot use the word "genocide".

The links in the article go to Turkey's rebuttal and to President Trump's statement.

Here is President Trumps official statement from last year.

Statement by President Donald J. Trump on Armenian Remembrance Day 2017

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/04/24/statement-president-donald-j-trump-armenian-remembrance-day-2017

We welcome the efforts of Turks and Armenians to acknowledge and reckon with painful history, which is a critical step toward building a foundation for a more just and tolerant future.

Acknowledge? Not yet.

1 posted on 04/25/2018 6:39:36 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

In other words it didn’t happen.


2 posted on 04/25/2018 6:49:38 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Texas Fossil

A few years back I watched a film called “Ararat” which was about this genocide. Very dark and disturbing.


3 posted on 04/25/2018 7:04:16 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I have Armenian heritage...my grandfather (an Armenian Catholic) was born on a ship to the USA when his family was fleeing the violence that was apparently increasing, but...I don’t get hung up on it (and neither did he) because he became an American, not an Armenian, so it didn’t define him.

When we were kids, he used to say to us with his completely bald head, dark skin, and big wide eyes (Kind of reminded me of Scatman Crothers later in life!) when we were misbehaving “The Turks are going to get you!”

It was only later I understood what he was referring to!


4 posted on 04/25/2018 7:05:01 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Texas Fossil

“Genocide” refers to the systematic extermination of a group. The Turks did not suffer a genocide, but the Armenians, whose population in Turkey dropped by 98%, mostly due to the killings, evidently did.


5 posted on 04/25/2018 7:05:39 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (We)
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To: Texas Fossil

Why is today’s Turkey so sensitive to these past atrocities?


6 posted on 04/25/2018 7:10:10 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Texas Fossil; lightman

Here is President Trump’s statement from this year:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-armenian-remembrance-day-2018/

Once again, he did not use the word “genocide”!!!! Nevertheless, his statement was “too strong” for the muslim Turk!!!!

From the days of the false “prophet” Muhammad to the present day, islam has ALWAYS been characterized by mass murder and genocide!!!!

We need a strong ban on muslim immigration, and must also outlaw the terrorist muslim Brotherhood and close all its institutions and organizations!!! That will put an end to all those terrorist-supporting mosques in our major cities, and will result in muslims deporting themselves from the USA!!!!

And we must recognize the Turkish muslim genocide of Christian Armenians for what it was!!!!


7 posted on 04/25/2018 7:11:22 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Texas Fossil

So if the Nazis were still in power dip!omacy would require us to tiptoe around that Jewish thing that might or might not have happened?


8 posted on 04/25/2018 7:16:29 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Tuck Furkey!


9 posted on 04/25/2018 7:16:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Texas Fossil

jeez that is bizarre — conflating 2 different incidents, a war with a massacre...

its like saying

‘hey you are fat. no, no im not because i have a cat’


10 posted on 04/25/2018 7:21:18 AM PDT by Irishguy
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To: Texas Fossil

So what?


11 posted on 04/25/2018 7:27:02 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: rlmorel
I had a good friend in high school who was Armenian. He was a very nice guy, gentle natured and a good friend.

I can still remember how his face would change, his eyes would burn when the Turkish were mentioned and on any reference to the events of 1915. I never asked for details and just thought it best to let it go.

12 posted on 04/25/2018 7:32:21 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perhaps we should care less about who we may offend and care more about who we may inspire.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
But, it did.

And Turkey taking Afrin Syria was handled almost that bad.

If Erdogan the Islamist is not stopped, he will do something on the order of the Armenian, Assyrian, Greek and Jewish genocide. (throw in the Alevi, Ezidi and Kurds)

What Turkey, with no complaint from the powers of the World, did in Afrin is the precursor for their ambition to take over (conquer) the Middle East. Iran would be right in there helping and both would try to take down Israel.

This is where we really are.

13 posted on 04/25/2018 8:20:01 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: cweese

I did not see it, but I did see “The Promise”. It was well done, but for legitimate reasons toned down the reality of the degree of the brutality.


14 posted on 04/25/2018 8:21:30 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: cweese

all should educate themselves on the atrocities against the Armenians. watch Michael Hagopian’s film histories, hear survivors’ testimonies, read about how Turks rewrote history to go into a damaging period of denial. more and more Turks want a turn to truth so they can move ahead without the stain of lies. just as they studied Germany’s “final solution” they should emulate Germany’s teshuvah after WWII.


15 posted on 04/25/2018 8:23:00 AM PDT by avital2
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To: rightwingcrazy

Recent document discovery has proven without a doubt that this was in fact planned from the top of the leadership.

Of course, Turks deny the proof. They say it is a forgery.

Have you ever wondered why Turk, ISIS and al Qaeda destroy all signs of older civilizations when they have control? Because they cannot explain their own past so cannot be exposed to civilizations that have “real” history.

Their own story line does not fit the evidence so they must destroy all evidence.


16 posted on 04/25/2018 8:25:50 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Thanks for the info. I will check that one out. “Ararat” doesn’t really tone down the degree of brutality. Truly awful what the Turks were doing.


17 posted on 04/25/2018 8:45:21 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Heh, my grandfather was full Armenian, and my grandmother was full Italian, so my mother got the high emotion from both of them!

When she got a burr under her saddle...WATCH OUT! Volcanic in nature!


18 posted on 04/25/2018 9:22:08 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Paladin2

Why? Because they continue to do the same thing now.

Ethinic cleansing in Afrin, the most recent.

But that is a far too mild term for what they just did.

They bombed civilians in large numbers, destroyed whole villages, pillaged the property, kidnapped young women and forced them in to sex slavery, rape women, one pregnant young woman repeatedly raped until lost baby, and made public leave dead civilians and Kurd soldiers bodies on hillsides and in woods for wild animals to eat and so public could see and smell them. ISIS and al Qaeda signatures.

We are very close to same old for Turkey unchained.


19 posted on 04/25/2018 9:43:26 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Honorary Serb

Agree. It is what it is.

We must accept that.


20 posted on 04/25/2018 9:59:41 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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