Posted on 06/04/2018 12:06:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
The idea of a Bay Area "exodus" is no joke, and appears to be growing more vivid and real with each year.
A poll released Sunday by a local advocacy group showed that 46 percent of Bay Area residents surveyed said they want to move out of the area within the next few years. That number is up from 34 percent in 2016 and 40 percent last year in the same poll.
The survey was a joint effort by advocacy group Bay Area Council and public opinion data firm EMC Research. The poll involved 1,000 registered voters in the Bay Area.
The reason for the urge to leave might be pretty obvious, at least to anyone knowledgeable on California: It's just too expensive. Cost of living (45 percent) and housing prices (27 percent) were the main reasons cited among the 461 residents who said they want out.
The idea of a Bay Area "exodus" is no joke, and appears to be growing more vivid and real with each year.
A poll released Sunday by a local advocacy group showed that 46 percent of Bay Area residents surveyed said they want to move out of the area within the next few years. That number is up from 34 percent in 2016 and 40 percent last year in the same poll.
The survey was a joint effort by advocacy group Bay Area Council and public opinion data firm EMC Research. The poll involved 1,000 registered voters in the Bay Area.
The reason for the urge to leave might be pretty obvious, at least to anyone knowledgeable on California: It's just too expensive. Cost of living (45 percent) and housing prices (27 percent) were the main reasons cited among the 461 residents who said they want out.
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I know a college senior who is interning/working at a large tech company there for the summer and fall semester. She is renting a pull-out couch, in another person's apartment living-room, for $1200/month.
Moscow Idaho is the northern Berkeley.
Well I’m pretty conservative, but it’s unlikely I’ll ever leave California. All of my family and friends live here, and I still love the geography of the place, which is very important to how I live.
Locusts. Devour the crop and move on to the next.
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That’s exactly what the vile bastards do. And they can’t figure it out.
I’ve got a sister and a nephew who want out of San Jose. They both feel trapped in a no-win economic situation.
One of my brothers, who is comfortably retired there, would also leave, but for all of his grandkids in the area..
“We dont want any of them in Texas - they should try Venezuela or Cuba - they should be happy there.”
My wife’s friend’s friend sold her house in CA and moved to the Houston area. Pocketed about $800k for the move.
A full blown democrat to arrogant to take advice on a new house. She ended up with a new, poorly constructed house in a bad neighborhood. LOL!
too late. All these folks from CA and NJ/NY moving into DFW (Plano, Frisco etc). They were transferred by Toyota, Chase, Liberty Mutual etc
California: A Real World “Elysian”.
1. This is the story about a real-world “Elysium” a state which has the highest levels of poverty & inequality in the country but whose residents have convinced themselves that they are behaving ethically, protecting the environment, and fighting racism.
2. Everyone believes California is our most progressive state. And why not? It imposes the highest tax on the richest one percent. It is aggressively implementing Obamacare. And it is standing up to President Donald Trump on everything from immigration to the environment.
3. And yet the Golden State is also number one in poverty & inequality. How can this be? Around the world, progressive nations like Sweden and France, which redistribute wealth through high taxes and generous social welfare policies, boast of less inequality than other nations.
4. What gives? And how does California maintain its reputation as a progressive leader given the reality on the ground? To answer those questions, lets take a closer look at what might be considered a present-day Elysium.
5. In the 2013 science fiction film Elysium, the rich have fled to a luxury satellite orbiting Earth while the poor toil in dangerous conditions below.
Life in California today differs in degree, not in kind, from that dystopian vision.
6. Homeless encampments with hundreds of people have cropped up in the last two years. Occasionally, they are ravaged by hepatitis A, which in 2017 killed 20 people. In Silicon Valley, 132 people died up from 85. In San Diego, 117 people died, up from 56.
7. Last year, San Diego city workers nearly killed a homeless person after accidentally throwing her and the tent she was sleeping in into the back of garbage truck. She escaped just seconds before being crushed by the trash compactor.
8. Meanwhile, inside comfortable homes perched atop Berkeley and Beverly Hills, affluent progressives condemn the cruelty of the Trump administration toward the poor
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9. Its true that workers in California earn 11 percent more than their counterparts nationally. But that amount is not enough to make up for mortgage payments and rents that are 44 percent and 37 percent higher (respectively) than the national average.
10. Where 56 percent of Californians could afford a middle-class home in 2012, in the third quarter of 2017, just 28 percent could.
11. This matters. Homeownership has been the traditional route for the working class to join the middle-class, notes Chapman University demographer Joel Kotkin, who has been ringing the alarm about the crisis for years.
12. One fact says it all: homeowners have a net worth that is whopping 36 to 45 times higher than that of renters.
13. Californias elected officials make serious-sounding pronouncements about the problem but back them up with only symbolic actions.
14. Last September, Gov. Jerry Brown signed housing legislation that will raise $250 million per year to subsidize housing. But thats just enough to subsidize 1,824 units annually at a time when 100,000 to 200,000 new units are needed.
15. Is the problem too few progressive policies or too many?
Consider:
In the name of helping the poor and protecting the environment, California has placed myriad restrictions and fees on building new housing units, driving up their price;
16. Progressive local governments like San Francisco & Santa Monica block even those housing projects that comply with zoning laws progressives had agreed to;
17. And the states progressive environmental law allows duplicative and anonymous lawsuits to block housing projects for often unethical and frivolous reasons.
18. Why havent lawmakers changed those laws?
Because the progressive residents of Elysium dont want them to.
Legislation that would have encouraged more housing density was snuffed out last April, garnering support from less than one-third of legislative committee members.
19. Progressive organizing, lamented Benjamin Ross in the left-wing magazine Dissent, evolves stealthily into a defense of the residential status quo. It is a status quo that Beverly Hills is happy to preserve.
20. As progressives denounce Republicans as racist, they have presided over a significant decline in the performance of black & Latino eighth graders relative to counterparts in other states.
Less than 40% of non-white and non-Asian students meet state educational standards.
21. The reason is a combination of factors, including lack of funding, lack of accountability, and a high rate of non-English speakers. When the cost of living is taken into account, California spends less on K-12 education than all but four other states.
22. A decade-long reform effort in Washington, D.C. showed that student performance can be improved significantly by rewarding teachers for performance and replacing underperforming teachers.
23. But California has rejected similar reforms. Progressives wont even allow delaying teacher tenure from two to three years to ensure high-quality teachers.
24. What about the states much ballyhooed criminal justice reform?
California did indeed reduce the total number of prisoners by 12 percent between 2011 and 2015. But thats because it had to: barbaric overcrowding resulted in a federal court order that the state to take action
25. The amount California spends on prisons actually increased by a half billion dollars thanks to the influence of the states corrupt prison guards union.
26. As a consequence, California today spends more per prisoner than any other state $65,000 annually which happens to be the same amount it costs to send a high school graduate to Stanford University for a year.
27. While housing is the main factor behind the high cost of living, Californias unfair taxes contribute significantly to poverty and inequality.
While the state has the highest income tax rate for the richest 1%, it also has the highest sales tax, which is famously regressive.
28. Meanwhile, two-thirds of the tax relief from Proposition 13, the 1978 ballot initiative that restricted property taxes, goes to homeowners with incomes above $120,000 annually.
29. How do progressive residents of Elysium protect their wealth across the generations? By allowing homeowners to pass along their low property tax rates to their children.
30. Californias high energy prices and regulatory burden result in the state having fewer high-paying manufacturing jobs relative to other states.
31. Between 2011 and 2017, Californias electricity rates rose an astonishing five times more than nationally, undermining the ability of the state to compete for manufacturing jobs which pay $96,711 per year on average $40,000 more than the states average non-farm income
32. Progressive public employee unions reward themselves with benefits far beyond those of ordinary workers. Over 200,000 government workers collect retirement pensions at the age of 55 at a cost of $5.4 billion/year an astonishing 30 times more than was paid out before 2000
33. Back on Earth, one-third of the public has no retirement savings whatsoever. The median savings of the rest is just $111,000. A person would need $2.6 million in savings in order to receive retirement benefits as large as those received by a California Highway Patrol officer.
34. The biggest difference between Elysium the movie and present-day California is that in the real-world version, Elysiums residents believe they are progressive.
35. How do they maintain that fiction, which is more detached from reality than Elysium the movie? By living in a fantasy world where California is leading the world in saving the environment and fighting racism.
36. But in saving the environment, California progressives increased electricity rates, hurt manufacturing, and allowed carbon emissions to rise even while they declined in the rest of the U.S.
37. And in vigorously protecting the right of their low-wage foreign servant class to remain in California while denying everybody, including them, affordable shelter, progressives arent being generous, theyre being selfish.
38. Nobody wants to talk about it, but Californias liberal immigration laws have been good for the progressive residents of Elysium.
They benefit directly from the downward pressure that low-skill immigrants put on the wages for cooks, cleaners, gardeners, & drivers.
39. What results is the most racially unequal society in the U.S. After decades of Californians congratulating themselves on their anti-racism, it is low-wage workers disproportionately people of color who suffer the brunt of the state’s housing, tax, and regulatory policies.
40. What Donald Trump offers Elysium progressives is an external enemy. Trump was an opportunity for the states politicians and Democratic Party activists to escape their responsibility for seriously addressing widening inequality and the extreme poverty all around them.
41. Trump gives progressives a way to channel whatever guilt they might have from preventing homebuilding and benefitting from unfair taxes or pensions to depriving black and Latino students the teacher quality and school funding they need into a sanctimonious tribal rage.
42. If racism is more than just saying nasty things if it is, as scholars like James Baldwin, Ta-Nehisi Coates, Michelle Alexander & others have described, embedded into socioeconomic structures then California isnt just the least progressive state. Its also the most racist
43. What will it take for the progressive bubble to burst? Another recession, perhaps. Californias tax revenues are deeply lopsided toward income and especially toward the richest one percent whose income is dependent on the fortunes of the stock market.
44. Already the states top accountants are predicting a $55 billion shortfall over the next three years. And that amount is dwarfed by the much larger $366 billion debt taxpayers owe in pension and health care benefits to public employees.
45. But there will always an external enemy upon which progressive residents of Elysium can displace their guilt.
As such, if California is ever to live up to its ideals, change must come from within not just from within Elysium, but from within the progressive movement.
46. And that starts with acknowledging that California’s tragic poverty and widening inequality arent the result of racist policies imposed from without but rather progressive policies embraced from within.
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And Californians would rather move to infest another area than accept Reason #46, for like “good” communists everywhere they believe that they will always live in the nice Daca behind the gates and not end up as a corpse in a mass grave.
A lot of them are coming to Idaho, which is one reason why my house in the Treasure Valley has almost doubled in value since I bought it four and a half years ago.
The problem is if they are leftists and bring their awful politics here. We have enough problems already.
ummm, any old school trash metal maniac will know that theres been an exodus bonding by blood in the bay area since the early 80's and it ain't no joke
I live in El Dorado Hills which is just east of Folsom and both east of the Bay Area.
Home prices here are cray cray going up and I am meeting a LOT of people that have recently moved here from SF.
My house went up $30K in the last month.
And the same disaster is repeated, when your kids and others find they can't afford to live in the towns they were born and raised in.
Let them pass a quarantine before they're allowed anywhere else.
I imagine you are correct.
The rich ones, though, might love a second home there for the bragging rights—and maybe the tax base?
No, no.. NO! Stay where you are, Baylings. The Cali cancer has metastasized enough.
I lived in Mountain View/Sunnyvale 1987 - 2000. That area was center/right at the time, I liked it. I would have left San Jose even then.
In fact, I did leave California in 2000. Went to Maryland for career advancement. Good step career-wise, bad move for quality of life.
Only good part of move to Maryland was that I got to demonstrate in front of the White House during summer/fall campaign season.
Apparently SOMEONE wants to live there. Otherwise, prices wouldn’t be so high. ;)
Any say they want to move out because the area is so liberal?
I think a lot of them are leaving because they’ve aged and gone from blue to red.
They want out because San Francisco and a huge portion of CA has been turned into a sewer by Jerry Brown, Gavin Newsom, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Dianne Feinstein the the rest of the Liberal political human debris in CA. Same goes for New Jersey and New York and wherever Liberal Marxist take over and utilize voter fraud and illegals to put themselves in power.
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