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Delingpole: Epic Renewables Fail as Solar Crashes and Wind Refuses to Blow
breitbart.com ^ | 6/10/2018 | James Delingpole

Posted on 06/10/2018 8:22:27 AM PDT by rktman

Don’t laugh too hard but this has been a terrible week for the renewable energy dream.

Across the world solar energy share prices have crashed. This was caused by a sudden and unexpected decision by China, the world’s biggest solar manufacturer and user, to rein in subsidies.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: china; energy; givemecoal; hydrocarbons; maga; nonrenewable; opec
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Can't.....stop.....chuckling....... Well, I don't know about the rest of you but if we had some wind turbines close to Reno yesterday they probably would have had to shut them down due to high winds. Blew all day but now it's gone. Sigh. No wind power today. But the sun is shining and it was 37 degrees when I got up.
1 posted on 06/10/2018 8:22:27 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Solar is like Democrats. Can’t survive on an even playing field so they lie and cheat with subsidies and propaganda.


2 posted on 06/10/2018 8:30:08 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: rktman

When you take TAXPAYER monies away the massive solar and wind projects would never have been done . Another fleecing (outright organized theft) by BOTH rinos and demoncrats of our treasuries . Need I bother to reiterate the actual process of manufacturing both panels and turbines alone outweigh the energy they could ever produce in the lifetime of these ecological disasters ? Groupthink , braindead collegepuke individuals have delivered this to the meek electorate . I screamed at all in D.C. and state level proponents of these unicorn plans and was brushed off . The sad thing is I find no pleasure in being correct after all the damage that has been done let alone the waste of cash .


3 posted on 06/10/2018 9:13:17 AM PDT by mythenjoseph
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To: mythenjoseph

Now if they could just do something about ethanol.


4 posted on 06/10/2018 9:41:54 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: rktman

Chinese solar panels are no good, in my experience!


5 posted on 06/10/2018 9:47:10 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: upcountryhorseman

And making them produces a LOT of nasty stuff.


6 posted on 06/10/2018 9:48:33 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

God bless whoever comes up with solar and wind power that is effective and efficient. Until then taxpayers are just getting fleeced by an industry that puts out a nonviable product.


7 posted on 06/10/2018 11:31:59 AM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives)
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To: rktman

Just for the record...... A german Ibelieve company spent $5 billion building a tremendously large manufacturing plant in Charleston Tennessee near the Sequoyah Nuclear Plant to make the silicon materials for among other things solar panels. It took many years and untold manhours to build.

It is closed. The manufacturing technology just didn’t work


8 posted on 06/10/2018 11:36:35 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming))
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To: upcountryhorseman
Chinese solar panels are no good, in my experience!

Hey, it's not all bad stuff. I bought a solar-powered plastic cat that wags its arm, works great in the sunlight. Solar is good for novelty effects.

For powering my home and tools, I will never consider using solar. Not enough wattage for the effort and cost. And Chinese solar is not good enough yet.

9 posted on 06/10/2018 11:52:36 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: bert

http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/19906665/wacker-pushes-production-mid-2015


10 posted on 06/10/2018 11:56:49 AM PDT by Libloather (Trivial Pursuit question - name the first female to lose TWO presidential elections!)
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To: roadcat

For powering my home and tools, I will never consider using solar. Not enough wattage for the effort and cost.

___________________________________________________________

How do you know if you haven’t tried it?

I have 11.7 KW of PV on my roof, it supplies all my power and then some.

It was expensive, but it also pays for itself after several years. While it is paying for itself I have power when the rest of the neighborhood has none after storms.

The equipment is not complicated, has a reputation for lasting decades and it just works. I would highly recommend it to anyone.


11 posted on 06/10/2018 12:18:45 PM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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While it is paying for itself I have power when the rest of the neighborhood has none after storms.

That's what my gas-powered generator is for, got it after a storm that knocked out my power for a week. And it wasn't expensive.

12 posted on 06/10/2018 2:00:36 PM PDT by roadcat
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We shouldn’t laugh, except actually we must.

Yes.

But remember, the environmentalists HAD to do SOMETHING!

Whoops, I'm laughing again.

13 posted on 06/10/2018 2:19:05 PM PDT by TChad
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Delingpole: Epic Renewables Fail as Solar Crashes and Wind Refuses to Blow

I first became involved in depth in solar energy in the early 70s, officially, in our city's solar energy Committee. After 20 years of monthly meetings, we concluded it wasn't ready for prime time.
It still isn't.

Like ignorance, gullibility and hydrogen, the scam will last forever.

The current scam works like this...

Just invest in solar panels, and you can enjoy free electricity forever!

As Johnathan Gruber so clearly stated (in the Obamacare debacle context,) "we must rely (and exploit) the ignorance of both the American voter and the Congress..."

the actual investment to run a household entirely on solar power is between $25,000 and $45,000, including principal, interest, maintenance and the expensive switching equipment between a household and the energy providing company.

Maintenance and repairs are NEVER mentioned.
Compromising existing mortgage commitments (and liens) are never mentioned.

Wind power experience and bankruptcies among all the European pollyana countries who rushed into enormous infrastructures which failed to deliver is also never discussed.

Good luck to the "entertainment millionaires" and the gullible!

14 posted on 06/10/2018 2:34:21 PM PDT by publius911 ( If we let it, California will lead us all over the cliff.)
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Delingpole: Epic Renewables Fail as Solar Crashes and Wind Refuses to Blow

I first became involved in depth in solar energy in the early 70s, officially, in our city's solar energy Committee. After 20 years of monthly meetings, we concluded it wasn't ready for prime time.
It still isn't.

Like ignorance, gullibility and hydrogen, the scam will last forever.

The current scam works like this...

Just invest in solar panels, and you can enjoy free electricity forever!

As Johnathan Gruber so clearly stated (in the Obamacare debacle context,) "we must rely (and exploit) the ignorance of both the American voter and the Congress..."

the actual investment to run a household (unless it is a one bedroom shack) entirely on solar power is between $25,000 and $45,000, including principal, interest, maintenance and the expensive switching equipment between a household and the energy providing company.

Maintenance and repairs are NEVER mentioned.
Compromising existing mortgage commitments (and liens) are never mentioned.

Wind power experience and bankruptcies among all the European pollyana countries who rushed into enormous infrastructures which failed to deliver is also never discussed.

Good luck to the "entertainment millionaires" and the gullible!

15 posted on 06/10/2018 2:45:21 PM PDT by publius911 ( If we let it, California will lead us all over the cliff.)
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To: rktman; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks rktman.

16 posted on 06/10/2018 2:48:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: JAKraig
It was expensive, but it also pays for itself after several years.

Vague... vague... vague...
But that's understandable, because not even rich suckers enjoy being "taken."

What's "expensive?" Does your amortization figures (or cash payment) allow for interest paid? Over what time?

Smug generalities won't cut it among informed citizens.

What does "...pays for itself after several years." mean? Including interest paid or not earned? What is 'several years?" 45??

Time to fess up."

This isn't Barbra Streisand, is it?

17 posted on 06/10/2018 2:57:02 PM PDT by publius911 ( If we let it, California will lead us all over the cliff.)
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To: rktman

Add to that, solar under Obama was a massive pay to play. Then you have fiascos like Solyndra which starts to look like a money laundering operation. Get the government grant, build a Potemkin Village factory, press release, big contribution to the DNC (hmmm, would that be with the grant money?), and then file bankruptcy. Rinse, repeat.


18 posted on 06/10/2018 4:14:22 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Solar is just like global warming a scam that made these criminals rich


19 posted on 06/10/2018 6:00:57 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: JAKraig

Do you live in a place like Arizona that has no snow to cover the panels? If so then it may make a little more sense than places that have snow. Is your rooftop unobstructed by hills or trees? That helps a lot too. These storms you speak of, might there be things flying around that might break panels or high winds that might tear them off your roof? Your roofing material...is it slate? Standard roofing shingles degrade from lack of air circulation where they are located under the panels. Many home insurance companies won’t cover roof damage caused by that. Give us some detail!


20 posted on 06/10/2018 7:07:45 PM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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