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The Big Diffs
Townhall.com ^ | July 1, 2018 | Paul Jacob

Posted on 07/01/2018 9:55:49 AM PDT by Kaslin

The recent exclusionary action against Sarah Huckabee Sanders at a Red Hen restaurant — where the government worker was asked to leave an eatery just for being President Trump’s official mouthpiece — points to an ugly trend. In that instance it got even uglier as she was hounded across the street by the Red Hen owner and her mob.

Is a barnyard revolt underway?

It is obvious that “left” and “right” no longer play as each other’s “loyal opposition.” On the left, we now find very loud Democrats shouting what amounts to no union with Republicans. Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Ca.) even went so far as to call for more of the kind of social shunning, shaming and marginalization that Mrs. Sanders was subjected to. 

To the back of the bus!

For those of us who do not easily fit in the left-right/Democrat-Republican binary, this looks especially bizarre. Sure, Rep. Waters has long shown herself to be as mad as a hatter, but she’s not alone in the mad hat(e) game. She’s joined by quite a few Hollywood celebrities — Robert De Niro and Rob Reiner come quickest to mind, for their recent insane rantings.

But a few luminaries in the Democratic Party have sharply responded to Rep. Waters’ latest call to up the ante of antagonism: Sen. Chuck Schumer and Rep. Nancy Pelosi, at the very least, have distanced themselves from the notion that harassment could be an acceptable way of getting what one wants in a democracy.

Or a republic.

Or barnyard?

A lot of the antagonism between the two parties comes down to differences between two broadly distinct philosophies, based upon substantial differences in focused-on-facts and prioritized values. According to academics Jonathan Haidt and Jordan Peterson, much of this seems built into our very biological beings. 

Be that as it may, many disagreements are mere factual errors — about the other.

At FiveThirtyEight, Percy Bacon Jr. writes that “Democrats Are Wrong About Republicans. Republicans Are Wrong About Democrats.” Much of what each side thinks about the other is error. Citing research from last year, Mr. Bacon notes the sad fact that “about 40 percent of both Democrats and Republicans belong to their party because they oppose the other party’s values, rather than because they are particularly aligned with their own party.”

Why would this be? Why would people with diverse values separate out into two competing groups based on opposing the other? 

The answers to this can be found in Public Choice, a branch of economics that deals with Political Science issues. It’s complex. The curious should explore. But here is a clue: follow the “cui bono,” who seeks what advantages for whom through the State. And then note how this competition for power affects our beliefs and attitudes.

The State demands compliance. Government’s laws and rulings and edicts and vast redistributions — the whole coercive array — express a value scale. With which no one personally agrees with in every particular. And because we demonstrate a wide diversity of values new government programs mess with our values. When a new one is put in place, each of us must give up a little more of our values. And freedom to achieve them.

No wonder we disagree. Values are hard to argue about honestly.

So that leaves us with facts. Could pointing out facts be enough?

Well, the left and right are indeed factually wrong about each other. Of the many divergences between reality and belief the left has about the right, and the right has about the left, one stands out. Democrats estimate that the number of Republicans who earn above $250K per year is over 44 percent. The actual percentage is a mere 2 percent. A very big difference. On the left, they think that Republicans are “the party of the rich.” And electing a billionaire to the presidency only encouraged this delusion. What Republicans are, really, is the party of mostly normal people who are not bigoted against someone because he or she is rich.

What does the right get wrong about the left? Many things. But the biggest that Perry Bacon points out are Republicans’ overestimates of the number of Democrats who are union members, LGB and agnostic/atheist. The overestimates on these are off by 33, 32 and 27 points respectively. These are big, but not as quite as big as Democrats’ overestimates of Republican wealth, which was at a whopping 42 points.

These misunderstandings almost constitute the divide. But treat them as a given. Why do such factual errors stick?

Basically, the left sees a differing attitude on inequality and attributes it to greed and selfishness where the truth is that non-leftists do not construe altruism in the same way as leftists do. And the right sees the left’s catering to certain groups and attributes something like treason — a letting in of the barbarians. (This doesn’t apply so much to unions.) Whereas most non-LGB and religious Democrats look upon those “deviant” groups as people to be defended, and the defense as civilization itself.

Trying to understand each other better might help. But that probably won’t take plase via social war and mass boycott — which is what is too many leftists seem to think will somehow make . . . us all more accepting of “marginalized” groups. 

This seems not merely a long shot, but ludicrous.

As is the idea of refusing to serve Trumpians in restaurants.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: sarahhuckabeesanders

1 posted on 07/01/2018 9:55:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

-—To the back of the bus!-—

No, the leftists must be destroyed.

Under the Bus..... the only way to end their despicable tyranny


2 posted on 07/01/2018 9:58:48 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... In August our cities will be burning))
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To: Kaslin

We are becoming the “barnyard” straight out of Orwell’s book Animal Farm. “All animals are equal, some are more equal than others”.


3 posted on 07/01/2018 10:03:54 AM PDT by ghostkatz (catslivesmatter....all 9 of them)
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To: Kaslin

Why Democrats Hear a Secret Racist Dog Whistle and Republicans Don’t (Regarding Trump)
The Dilbert Blog ^ | June 10, 2018 | Scott Adams
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3664243/posts

Good article I posted less than a month ago that does a great job explaining differences in how the two sides see many common issues. Scott Adams rather famously called the election for Trump early on, and has what I think are unique insights into the Trump phenomenon.


4 posted on 07/01/2018 10:07:47 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Kaslin

The vast majority of Americans, including those in her own heavily Democratic city, do not approve of the Red Hen’s owner and her actions.

That’s why she had to resign as chairwoman of the make-Lexington-great-again-organization.


5 posted on 07/01/2018 10:09:45 AM PDT by humbleexpert
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To: bert
Republicans Are Wrong About Democrats

Um, no, we're not. Democrats utterly despise us, and will have us under their boot heel at the first opportunity. Then off to the camps.

6 posted on 07/01/2018 10:30:19 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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To: humbleexpert
She resigned as head of the Lexington downtown organization because she had stalked Sanders' family to another restaurant across the street and harassed them THERE, too.

That alone would even get her disqualified from a position where she ate dog sh!t off the street to keep the downtown area clean.

7 posted on 07/01/2018 10:47:11 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: Kaslin

> What does the right get wrong about the left?

The biggest mistake is failing to understand that the leftists really do hate you and want you to die.


8 posted on 07/01/2018 10:57:09 AM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (Don't like my guns? Molon labe.)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus
Many liberals believe in love and peace and don't believe that they would round up or kill their political opponents. Along came James Hodgekinson and the New York Times said (1) it doesn't matter what his motives were, (2) in America it is too easy to get a gun, and (3) Sarah Palin was responsible for inciting the Jan. 8, 2011 shooting rampage by Jared Loughner in Tucson.

The New York Times may be nominally liberal in that they don't explicitly call for the death of their political opponents. But they blame our side for all of the violence as they claim our side wants to kill sick people, lock up children in cages, etc. Their goal of their rhetoric is our political elimination. They want us dead figuratively. It's not a giant leap to literal.

9 posted on 07/01/2018 12:12:13 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: palmer

They don’t want to kill you — at least, not yet. They just want you to die, preferably peacefully and in your sleep, and get out of their way.

Having spent a long lifetime observing American leftists, I’m always disturbed by how quickly they graduate from passively wanting other people to die to actively working to speed up the process. Abortion, euthanasia, eugenics, socialized (meaning, government-rationed) medical care: these are all issues the left embraces, because they really want “those other people” (meaning, us) to die and stop impeding almighty Progress.

They want their opposition to die. They just aren’t ready to get their hands dirty doing the actual killing.

Not yet.


10 posted on 07/01/2018 12:37:37 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (Don't like my guns? Molon labe.)
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To: Kaslin

I weary of academics telling me what I think and why.


11 posted on 07/01/2018 4:16:30 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus

Not peacefully. Agonizingly.


12 posted on 07/01/2018 4:17:38 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Hardastarboard

What he’s saying is we’re wrong on numbers. We’re misunderstanding them because a large portion of the right believes the left is a mass of nothing but union, LGBTQ and one other category. In that area, he’s accurate. As for what you’re saying, absolutely, he’s incorrect in believing we don’t understand what they’re up to.


13 posted on 07/02/2018 12:17:29 PM PDT by spacewarp (FreeRepublic, Rush's show prep since foundation.)
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To: Kaslin

interesting


14 posted on 07/02/2018 1:50:03 PM PDT by iowamark
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