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To: TigersEye; mlo; dirtboy

Zimmerman was doing what when he got out of his car and started following Trayvon?

He’s 14 years old. Why doesn’t he have the right to be frightened and feel threatened that a grown man is following him?

Zimmerman says in the 911 call that Travon is suspicious because he’s looking around. Not looking in houses.

It’s raining, of course he pulled his hoodie up.

I hate everything that happened afterwards and I know the race pimps inflamed things. I know the media altered Zimmerman’s bloody head.

But does it not cross anyone’s minds that a 14 year old should not be in danger of being shot walking home from the store?

The guy police shot down in Walmart. It’s an open carry state. Is this not troubling to anyone?

The problem I see here is that black people don’t want to accept that the perception we have of their teen sons is somewhat an earned perception and white people never want to say, “Yeah, you know, Zimmerman should have stayed in the car.”


98 posted on 07/02/2018 2:11:28 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Except he was 17


100 posted on 07/02/2018 2:20:55 PM PDT by ThreeYearLurker
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To: Bodleian_Girl

The fact that Trayvon was 14 is almost totally meaningless.

He was a very large football player. Big enough to beat up most men.

I have no idea what the tape says as I have not heard it but it was definitely brought up at the trial that Trayvon, a hard core criminal was indeed looking in windows.

He had been caught red handed with stolen jewelry and burglary tools. They did not prosecute because the jewelry was never identified. He had a long criminal history.

Zimmerman almost certainly saved future people’s lives.


101 posted on 07/02/2018 2:21:04 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Bodleian_Girl
Sorry, you are mistaken. Trayvon was casing the neighborhood, in all likelihood, according to Zimmerman's testimony (which was never contradicted by forensics). Recall that he was suspended for having a burglary tool at school. Also he was 17, not 14. And he confronted Zimmerman after Zimmerman was returning to his car.

You have swallowed the liberal falsehoods about Trayvon hook, line and sinker, which is kinda pathetic on FR.

102 posted on 07/02/2018 2:22:13 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Trayvon was shot while attempting murder. Trayvon was bad to the bone until the instant he died.

He is a black hero because many many blacks view criminals in a favorable light.


103 posted on 07/02/2018 2:25:08 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... In August our cities will be burning))
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To: Bodleian_Girl

He was 17-—one just one inch under 6 feet tall——not a little kid.

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104 posted on 07/02/2018 2:25:26 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Bodleian_Girl
"Zimmerman was doing what when he got out of his car and started following Trayvon?"

He was on the phone with police, reporting suspicious behavior.

"He’s 14 years old. Why doesn’t he have the right to be frightened and feel threatened that a grown man is following him?"

Not relevant. He could feel frightened or not. So what?

"But does it not cross anyone’s minds that a 14 year old should not be in danger of being shot walking home from the store?"

He wasn't in danger of being shot walking home from the store. He was in danger of being shot when he started beating a man's head into the sidewalk.

"The guy police shot down in Walmart. It’s an open carry state. Is this not troubling to anyone?"

It is. I agree with you about that case. But you have your facts wrong about the Zimmerman case.

"Yeah, you know, Zimmerman should have stayed in the car."

Did Zimmerman deserve to be beat to death for getting out of his car?

106 posted on 07/02/2018 2:27:43 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Bodleian_Girl
Your perception of Trayvon:

The reality of Trayvon back then:


107 posted on 07/02/2018 2:27:46 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Bodleian_Girl
You totally bought into the MSM propaganda didn't you? Trayvon Martin was 17 years old, 158 lb.s, 5' 11" and played high school football.

He also liked to street fight.

Trayvon Martin Fight Club

109 posted on 07/02/2018 2:33:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Bodleian_Girl
Poor little Trayvon.


110 posted on 07/02/2018 2:35:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Bodleian_Girl
The Walmart thing? Horribly tragic.

Travon Martin was 17, not 14. At this time, he's also bigger than Zimmerman, and an athlete.

Zimmerman has a documented history of standing up for his minority neighbors, and against the police when they try to paper-over malfeasance.

Here's the transcript of the call: https://archive.org/stream/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman_djvu.txt .

In the recording, you can hear that Zimmerman only gets out of the truck when the dispatcher asks where Martin is and what he is doing.

At the end of the transcript, Zimmerman has no idea where Martin is, and is now calmly waiting for the police. Martin has successfully gone home.

The testimony of Martins friend who was talking on the phone during the time, portrayed Martin not as afraid or scared - which you've surmised from nothing - but rather that he thinks it is a gay guy following him, ditched him, then made it home.

112 posted on 07/02/2018 2:38:40 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

You have so much of the story wrong, and are apparently ignorant of the back-story.


147 posted on 07/03/2018 2:17:54 PM PDT by cyn
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