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1 posted on 08/22/2018 9:48:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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It will be a big fat nothing burger which will hurt those who perpetrated these schemes.


2 posted on 08/22/2018 9:50:20 AM PDT by DarthVader ("The biggest misconception on Free Republic is that the Deep State is invulnerable")
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seeing Lanny Davis as Cohen’s lawyer freaks me out. Lanny is one of Hillary’s lapdogs. This is wrong on so many levels.


3 posted on 08/22/2018 9:50:43 AM PDT by IC Ken (Stop making stupid people famous)
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In the eyes of the dummycrats, almost the final nail. To those with a brain. Meh! No worse that Obxxx or slick willie. Of course there were no cries of “OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!” then


4 posted on 08/22/2018 9:51:02 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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Means NOTHING to me....Lock HER up.


5 posted on 08/22/2018 9:53:07 AM PDT by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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After the way this trial went down Manafort is going to have about 1000 avenues for appeal.


6 posted on 08/22/2018 9:55:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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...leaving Giuliani and others to assert that they were not campaign contributions...

I always thought that campaign contributions were funds given by donors to the campaign. Regardless of how much money was paid to the two floozies, unless they were running for office, it was not campaign contributions. Furthermore, since Trump pretty much funded his own campaign (at least in the primary phase), there were no donors who supplied the money to pay to the tarts. So, it is a real stretch to claim that the hush money is a campaign contribution.

7 posted on 08/22/2018 10:00:31 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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There’s no legal impact on either of these. Politically is another thing. However I think the Cohen thing happened too soon to have a lasting effect during the upcoming election cycle and will be dealt with in plenty of time.

If, as someone else posted on another thread, Don Jr. is the next target then that will cause a much larger outcry. It could result in unintended consequences with DJT declassifying all the material that the DOJ & FBI are withholding sooner than was planned and then everyone will see what was really happening.


9 posted on 08/22/2018 10:06:09 AM PDT by astrodude
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How Bad for Trump?
None it made his base larger.


10 posted on 08/22/2018 10:06:33 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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It will cost Trump no more than presenting a fake BC cost Obama or paying Paula Jones $800K cost Bubba.


12 posted on 08/22/2018 10:09:38 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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Deep State shot its wad.

POTUS has plenty of time for counterattacks.

Leftists will soon be soiling their pants, when more FISA shenanigans get unredacted and declassified.


13 posted on 08/22/2018 10:09:41 AM PDT by rfp1234 (I have already previewed this composition.)
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Didn’t the FEC already say that the money doesn’t count as campaign contributions?


14 posted on 08/22/2018 10:16:06 AM PDT by qaz123
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Manfort’s troubles are irrelevant. Cohen is all that matters.

First and foremost Cohen’s claim that he was directed by Trump has no corroboration.

Davis claims that there is a wire transfer doc from Trump to Cohen, OK whoopdedoo.

Let’s not get lost here, paying off lovers is not at all illegal.

Hushing up those lovers benefits a candidate.

Real simple, any monies that benefit a candidate have to be disclosed.

That’s what potentially incriminates Trump if he can be shown to have directed the payoff......and.....directed the non-disclosure. Both issues have to be proven by the FEC to stick.


15 posted on 08/22/2018 10:32:01 AM PDT by gandalftb
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...those funds were intended to affect the election result.

This is the meme where the best opportunity to fight back lies.

First, let's stipulate that EVERYTHING a campaign does is "intended to influence the election" by convincing citizens to vote for them and not the other guy. Funds spent on ads are intended to influence the election, funds spent on busing people to the polls is intended to influence the election, funds spent on organizing rallies is intended to influence the election, funds spent preparing for debates is intended to influence the election.

Campaigns exist solely to influence the results of an election favorably for their candidate.

Cohen says that he paid off women at Trump's instruction solely for the purpose of influencing the outcome of the election. First is the question of whether it was solely to influence the election, second is whether Cohen had access to campaign accounts or only Trump's personal accounts; I think it's the latter, meaning that it's not possible for Cohen to have used campaign funds to pay off the women.

By contrast, we have the reports from 2008 that Obama had turned off credit card country validation so that foreign donations into his campaign wouldn't be blocked. Obviously, this money would also be used to influence the outcome of an election in Obama's favor. However, Obama would be using illegal campaign donations that had NO other use because it came in directly into his fundraising accounts that couldn't be used for any other use.

So, intent to influence an election is a non-starter, but the illegality of the money is the issue. Trump's money was not illegal, nor was its use. The same cannot be said for Democrats.

-PJ

16 posted on 08/22/2018 10:33:16 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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Trump will turn it all to higher approval ratings.


17 posted on 08/22/2018 10:35:47 AM PDT by arthurus (bdpq)
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The plea deal contains Cohen’s own assertion that those funds were intended to affect the election result

Pretty sure that was what he was told to assert in order to get leniency for being a outlaw dirtbag.

20 posted on 08/22/2018 10:39:04 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Nothing happened here.

Nothing.

Cohen plead to things that weren’t crimes at the behest of Lanny Davis (of all lawyers). Cohen is a lawyer, which means he knows what he’s doing.

Manafort and Cohen are plants. Period.

And they got nothing. If they had, I can assure you the details would have been broken down so that a 9 year old Helen Keller would have comprehended it.

It would have been done in Lego, and Barney, and Callou so that even toddlers would understand.

Whether Trump paid for sex or not, I don’t care. I actually understand it. Has Trump done anything to undermine the United States in any way, shape, or fashion.

According to the press, no. By their own admission, no.

Desperation. This is what cornered animals act like in the end.


25 posted on 08/22/2018 10:47:12 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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The payments are offset by the fact that Trump himself spent millions of his own money; how does one know which pot of money it came from, and does it matter if not illegal to begin with as one former FCC chair has stated.


26 posted on 08/22/2018 10:47:32 AM PDT by Jumper
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Makes me want to campaign for Trump even more than in 2016!


28 posted on 08/22/2018 11:01:29 AM PDT by albie
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Somebody please tell me what paying ‘hush’ money to women has to do with campaign contributions.


32 posted on 08/22/2018 11:20:01 AM PDT by upchuck (Election campaigns are a pain in the ass. Unless I win. Then it's a nice ego boost. ~ CongressmanX)
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Anyone remember the Trump University Lawsuit?

They were trying to use that against Candidate Trump and he said he wasn’t going to Settle because it was ridiculous. The same People Suing him had signed Letters after they took the Courses saying how wonderful it was, not that it mattered to then and their Lawyers looking for a Payday.

After a while, Candidate Trump decided to Settle it because the Democrats and their Media Allies were pushing the false narrative and causing a distraction.

Now I ask, what is the difference between that and what the Cohen Plea tries to insinuate? Trump or his Privately owned Company paid out Money to get rid of a distraction. It wasn’t “Campaign” Money, it was Private Citizen Trump’s Money.


40 posted on 08/22/2018 12:18:21 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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