Posted on 09/07/2018 1:42:09 PM PDT by dontreadthis
... The congressional request is for President Trump to declassify and release the Carter Page FISA applications (including specifically pages 10-12 and 17-34 and relevant footnotes), all of the Bruce Ohr 302s and other relevant documents, including exculpatory evidence regarding Carter Page and others, that were presented to the Gang of Eight, but not presented to the FISA Court.
At first glance it appears to be a simple request right? However, it is anything but simple for a lot of reasons.
(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...
If President Trump orders the declassification of any document it gets released unredacted and there's no recourse.
that is what I thought until I read this article
Just do it damn it.
If they refuse the President deputizes Mattis to march down to the DOJ/FBI with written orders to release the listed documents or face immediate firing along with a Seal Team. Once they get there they work their way down the list firing and ejecting them from the building until someone complies.
There’s no conundrum.
Trump demands unredacted copies, 12 of them, be delivered to his office in 24 hours.
He then calls a news conference and hands them out.
Then, dare Congress to impeach him for it.
Only a fool would suggest Trump cannot get this info out due to his own admin refusing to comply. It’s ludicrous on it’s face.
1. The easiest way to get around the DOJ stonewall is to cut the DOJ out of the process. This is easier than a lot of people realize. The author is so hung up on the language of an Executive Order that he overlooks a more important point: Most of the senior posts in the DOJ -- including that of Deputy AG Rosenstein -- were never established by Congress. They were create through Executive Orders or internal DOJ protocols, and can be eliminated or changed just as easily. President Trump could issue an EO tomorrow with a formal determination that the FBI has been compromised in national security matters and therefore cannot be trusted to review classification or declassification procedures.
2. There's an easy way to not only compel the DOJ to issue the fully unredacted FISA documents, but to make them WANT to do it: Release a version of the documents with made-up, damaging names in them that will destroy the credibility of the DOJ. Put Barack Obama's name in there. Better yet, put a fake name in there and claim it was an Obama alias. Put Chelsea Clinton's name in there as someone who was working as a CIA operative used to get FISA warrants against Trump campaign members. Maybe the best idea of all: List Vladimir Putin as a CIA asset who helped the Obama DOJ spy on the Trump campaign. The DOJ will fall all over themselves to released the real documents just to prove that the fake ones are fake.
Direct RR to unredact as much as possible.
Direct RR to provide specific reasoning as to why each redaction is required, i.e., specifically who and what is being protected by each redaction.
Form small review committee of trusted intel, military and legals with appropriate clearances to examine RR’s rationale.
I’m pretty sure that the whole means and methods cover is a crock and a legit review outside of RR’s control will make that obvious.
Last step, declassify and begin prosecutions.
“The process reasoning is simple in the ordinary (non corrupt) flow of events. The intelligence agencies might need to protect part of the information, such as “sources or methods” of intelligence contained within the classified material.”
Bull crap. The sources and methods are precisely what we NEED to know. The source and method used to try to overthrow the US government.
The intelligence community forfeited all rights to consideration of their needs when they became a seditious enemy formation.
And the article is utterly wrong. The President does NOT need the AG or DAG and FBI Director to approve and sign-off on the declassification request. The process is that they are consulted and sign off on it for him, but this is only as advisors. They DO NOT possess veto power over what the President may or may not declassify.
The deep and corrupt state needs to be exposed ASAP, Mr. President. There’s little time left before the rats get back in control of congress and then we’ll all be screwed. Send in the marines.
“deputizes Mattis to march down to the DOJ/FBI with written orders to release the listed documents or face immediate firing along with a Seal Team.”
The problem with that is two-fold. First, seals cannot be used in domestic law enforcement. Marines are exempt from the posse comitatus act.
Second, a company of regular Marine infantry would be better... you do not need to negotiate movie and book rights first.
They would not be doing law enforcement and arresting people, they would be acting as security guards.
Same thing. It is law enforcement they cannot be used. Marines would be way better.
And like a said, you don’t have to ink movie and book rights first.
That’s part of a modern seal mission order. Assigning the book rights. Marines keep it nice and legal. Unless of course, Trump wants to declare it an insurrection, then he can use lesser units than Marine infantry domestically.
It would just be a farce.
More effective would be to black bag Rosenstein and torture him until he spills everything.
Which is surprisingly legal, thanks to all the War on Terror era eviscerations of civil rights.
The article is a pile of do-do. The President has ultimate authority.
CTH likes to overtrick the plumbing.
The Constitutional authority of the president is inarguable.
All that has been lacking for decades is a patriotic president with the political will to do the now unseemly.
Exactly. If the sources were deceptive and the methods corrupt, they should not be protected.
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