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To: robowombat

I can’t get the page to load properly, but here are a few observations:

The Erdogan government is quite willing to use legal resources for political ends, and has interred thousands of people on flimsy pretexts. So their words are untrustworthy.

The Turks and Saudis are long time rivals for influence in the Islamic world, and Turks and Arabs have a tradition of mutual hatred dating back to the Ottoman Empire.

The Saudis royal family (10,000 people strong of whom about 25% matter) 1) generally prefer to throw money at problems and hope they go away, 2) generally prefer to kick problem individuals out of the country, in hopes they become someone else’s problem, and 3) will get their hands dirty if they need to if 1) and 2) don’t solve the problem.

It is quite possible that the Saudis killed Mr.Khashoggi, but he would have to have been a very large burr in their saddle, and knowing that doing so in thier own consulate would both be unusual, and draw attention, but worth it to solve the problem.

However, you can’t trust the Turks word on it.


10 posted on 10/06/2018 10:27:25 PM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect
It is quite possible that the Saudis killed Mr.Khashoggi, but he would have to have been a very large burr in their saddle, and knowing that doing so in thier own consulate would both be unusual, and draw attention, but worth it to solve the problem.

The only way I see the Saudis doing this is if this reporter was an enormous burr under their saddle.

Much of this story makes no sense for the Saudis to kill a reporter in their own consulate.

First – a murder in a consulate is a huge story world wide. Why attract that kind of attention when a murder on a side street is a daily event.

A 15 man hit team for reporter seems excessive. The more people involved the more opportunity for a screw up. Half that many should be more than enough.

Unless the damage that the reporter was to cause has not yet happened and this was a pre-emptive strike is it not better to wait until the reporter returns to SA and deal with him on your own turf. At home he can be charged with heresy and executed.

To me this sounds like Turkey trying to shift blame to SA for their own crime.

11 posted on 10/06/2018 10:57:55 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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