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The Caravan Is a Challenge to the Integrity of U.S. Borders
The Atlantic ^ | October 23, 2018 | David Frum

Posted on 10/23/2018 10:54:51 AM PDT by conservative98

If Trump’s opponents stand opposed to policing America’s boundaries, they will not help immigrants—they will only lose votes.

DAVID FRUM 10:32 AM ET

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For Trump’s opponents, the caravan represents a trap. Has Trump’s radical nativism so counter-radicalized them that they have internalized the caravan message against any border enforcement at all? If yes, they will not help immigrants. They will only marginalize themselves—and American politics will follow the European path in which anti-immigration parties of the extreme right cannibalize the political center.

If liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders, then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals will not do. I’ve been pounding the drum for this warning since the European migration crisis accelerated in 2013. The warning holds as true as ever—and now it’s coming home.

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KEYWORDS: caravan; dadvidfrum; davidfrum; democrats; frumisaloser; hondurascaravan; illegalsinvasion; noborders; trump; trumpwasright
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1 posted on 10/23/2018 10:54:51 AM PDT by conservative98
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Well, it WILL be that challenge once it gets here. Should be after the election, though.


2 posted on 10/23/2018 10:56:48 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: conservative98

“The Caravan Is a Challenge to the Integrity of U.S. Borders”

Well DUH!


3 posted on 10/23/2018 10:56:50 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists call 'em what you will they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: conservative98

If we air drop say 10,000 loaded AR-15s into that crowd somewhere along the line.... and if they all pick up one.... can we consider them an armed invasion force and then call in a military strike?


4 posted on 10/23/2018 10:58:54 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: conservative98

A challenge to the integrity of the US border?

What integrity? Its so full of holes it looks like swiss cheese!


5 posted on 10/23/2018 10:59:03 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: conservative98

It’s not that. It’s a challenge to our existence as a nation.

The Hispanics have nothing but contempt for that concept. This “caravan” is about showing their contempt. Any fool who won’t defend his property deserves to lose it in their culture. It’s the culture of the jungle.

That’s all it’s about.


6 posted on 10/23/2018 10:59:41 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: cuban leaf
Well, it WILL be that challenge once it gets here. Should be after the election, though.

They will be at our boarder this time next week, count on it.
7 posted on 10/23/2018 11:00:22 AM PDT by JoSixChip (He is Batman!)
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To: conservative98

I hope we have learned from Israel.

Get cameras on the border.

Use non-lethal area-denial weapons at first. Target lethal weapons at the ones presenting real threats.


8 posted on 10/23/2018 11:03:23 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: conservative98

I hope we have learned from Israel.

Get cameras on the border.

Use non-lethal area-denial weapons at first. Target lethal weapons at the ones presenting real threats.


9 posted on 10/23/2018 11:03:23 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: conservative98

I hope we have learned from Israel.

Get cameras on the border.

Use non-lethal area-denial weapons at first. Target lethal weapons at the ones presenting real threats.


10 posted on 10/23/2018 11:03:24 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: conservative98
The pseudo-conservative, pseudo-intellectual,poseur chimes in with a piece that impliedly insults American patriots, and demonstrates Frum's personal bias against traditional values.

Needless to say, we do not share Frum's concerns, nor his "insights."

An American Immigration Policy

11 posted on 10/23/2018 11:03:35 AM PDT by Ohioan
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The fascists at Antifa have obligingly given us the game plan in their chant: “No border, no wall, no USA at all!” And that’s the end game.


12 posted on 10/23/2018 11:03:53 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Never Trumper David Frum wakes up about border integrity. This is too rich for words.


13 posted on 10/23/2018 11:03:56 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: conservative98

If only there was an official document we could consult that will instruct our officials what to do in case of a foreign invasion?


14 posted on 10/23/2018 11:05:22 AM PDT by Leep (Th)
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To: cuban leaf

Exactly. I keep asking people who bluster about this exactly how, under the law, is the US supposed to stop a group of people from other countries from approaching our border? We have total control once they do, but all this talk of “it’s an invasion” is ridiculous. The only country that’s been invaded is Mexico, and that’s their problem, not ours.


15 posted on 10/23/2018 11:07:24 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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To: JoSixChip

Are they driving? How can you move that many people, that fast, all the way across Mexico. That is a logistics nightmare, especially considering the quality of the transportation resources down there.


16 posted on 10/23/2018 11:10:59 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: bigbob

The only country that’s been invaded is Mexico, and that’s their problem, not ours.


Bingo!


17 posted on 10/23/2018 11:11:41 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: conservative98

This caravan is right out of the WWI boche playbook. What finally decided Wilson to enter the war was when British intelligence gave him a copy of a telegram the German government sent to the governments of Mexico and Japan encouraging them to invade the US. If this were done then our military would be tied down here and unable to join the fight in Europe.


18 posted on 10/23/2018 11:11:52 AM PDT by ryderann
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To: conservative98

Trump’s radical nativism
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Being in favor of secure borders and enforcement of the laws gets you tagged as a radical nativist by the Bush League Republicans who are still hell bent on making the USA into North Mexico.


19 posted on 10/23/2018 11:11:54 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: bigbob

-—under the law-—

By being hung up on the letter of the law, you lose.

The invasion transcends law. The invasion is a military problem not a legal problem

Mexico has surrendered national soverignty to a horde of Hondouran invaders.

American troops operating to oppose that horde as not violating a soverignity already proven to not exist


20 posted on 10/23/2018 11:15:43 AM PDT by bert ((KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Invade Hondouras. Provide a military government)
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