Blue states band together looking to bypass Electoral College

The Hill ^ | 03/03/19 | Michael Burke

[Puckster]

This is rather simple....this tells me just how desperate blue states are....meaning, they know this election is going to end up wrong for their collective agenda.

[Political Junkie Too]

The slates are formed, but which slate goes to the Electoral College is based on the vote.

-PJ

[Thud]

We should encourage the blue states to refuse to appoint electors at all as part of their protest of the Electoral College.

[reg45]

TN vs. IN, only half a letter different.

[yesthatjallen]

Democrats are always scheming.

EVIL NEVER SLEEPS.

[nicollo]

A couple thoughts:

* The Constitution nowhere proscribes the form or source of elector votes; however, it essentially prescribes that electors represent a choice by citizens of respective States;
* The prohibition that “of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves” will be problematic to this scheme, as any winners of a so-called popular vote will likely be citizens of the same State should the vote be decided nationally (I know that’s obtuse but the logic is there...);
* By the logic of this scheme, a coalition of 270 EV states could in advance of any election decide to cast all votes for the Republican candidate;
* A practical effect of this scheme would be to launch electoral reform and enforcement voter ID / citizenship and fraud, as these are tolerated until now by the EC isolation of fraud to the states, whereas this scheme would nationalize the fraud;
* The one test-case on this regarding one-man-one-vote in Mass is not a serious test, so I wouldn’t count out rulings on the scheme as unconstitutional;
* Imagine if the Republicans were doing this to the Dems: oh, the outrage!

[realcleanguy]

The beginning of a dictatorship. Democrats believe in Authoritarians and dictatorship. This will be the downfall of the United States. But then again, the Democrats have wanted this since losing the Civil War

[Jim Noble]

Seems they are violating the rights of their voters

There are no Presidential elections in the Constitution, no State Legislature is required to use voting to appoint its Electors, so no, no voter's "rights" are involved.

If, however, blue states hold a voting process and do not allow Republicans on the ballot, as NJ is planning to do in 2020 with President Trump AND then use a "national popular vote" to infuence other state's EVs - THAT would be a big problem.

[Thud]

Just tell them to boycott the Electoral College.

[DarthVader]

Bucking for a civil war which they will lose badly.

[gunsequalfreedom]

Colorado state Rep. Emily Sirota (D), one of the sponsors of that state’s legislation, said she sees the compact “as a way to ensure that every vote is counted equally” and force candidates to campaign nationwide instead of targeting a few battleground states that can deliver success in the electoral math.

How does someone this dumb get elected.

[inchworm]

And of course no conservative judge will declare this unconstitutional.

[ronnie raygun]

Just keep the voter fraud thing going, we are not prosecuting or jailing anyone for this travesty on the American people the country and its founding. you will see in 2020

[Bellagio]

The national popular vote is a statistical composite of each states popular vote. Yeah, pretty much meaningless... a media creation for entertainment and debate purposes.

[yesthatjallen]

Democrats are scheming for a one-party government and they believe they have found their means to an end.

Democrats never stop scheming.

EVIL NEVER SLEEPS.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Good point. It’ll make for an interesting SCOTUS case. But to get there, you need an aggrieved party with standing which means an election would have occurred where this caused an untoward outcome.

I’m not sure how you can head this off before that.

[pepsionice]

In general, if you use the Trump-Sanders-Schultz scenario, it’s very likely that having Schultz run as an independent will draw more votes away from Sanders, as some Democrats simply view Sanders as a ‘nut’. Then Trump would end up with more state wins, and the massive landslide in the EC would occur.

Go back to 1860 and look over the four-way election that developed (Lincoln, Breckinridge, Bell and Douglas). If the Democrats hadn’t split into the regular faction Democrats versus the Southern Democrats, then Douglas would have won the election.

I think all of the blue states in this gimmick will regret their action, and reverse the EC change in 2021.

[Truthoverpower]

My thoughts exactly
He’ll win 100% of the Ev and they’ll cry foul

[LouAvul]

It always amazes me how willing demoRATs are to cut their own throats and the throats of their children as long as it gives them victory over Republicans.

That depth of hatred is psychotic.

[PeterPrinciple]

But what if Trump wins the popular vote?