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Blue states band together looking to bypass Electoral College
The Hill ^ | 03/03/19 | Michael Burke

Posted on 03/03/2019 5:38:03 PM PST by yesthatjallen

A plan to circumvent the Electoral College is gaining momentum among blue states after Democrats suffered two crushing defeats in presidential elections over the past two decades.

The plan has been given new impetus after Colorado Gov. Jared Polis (D) said this week that he will sign a bill to have his state become the 12th state along with the District of Columbia to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

The states making up the compact, which already includes New York, Illinois and all the New England states except for New Hampshire, would commit to awarding their electoral votes to whoever wins the popular vote nationally, regardless of the results in the Electoral College.

So far, these states, with Colorado, add up to 181 electoral votes, well short of the 270 needed to ascend to the White House.

Advocates are doubtful that enough states can join the compact for it to take effect by 2020, but hold hope of garnering enough support by 2024, as a handful of states like New Mexico also consider the measure, though proponents acknowledge the path to get to 270 will be far from easy.

Colorado state Rep. Emily Sirota (D), one of the sponsors of that state’s legislation, said she sees the compact “as a way to ensure that every vote is counted equally” and force candidates to campaign nationwide instead of targeting a few battleground states that can deliver success in the electoral math.

“If we had presidential candidates campaigning across the country, instead of a handful of swing states, you'd see a lot more participation from across the country and I think that is good and healthy for our electoral process,” Sirota told The Hill.

The renewed push comes after 2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton lost the election that year despite winning the popular vote, the second time it has happened since the turn of the century.

The defeat was especially crushing to Democrats after a similar loss suffered by former Vice President Al Gore in 2000.

All states that are now part of the compact voted for Gore in 2000 and Clinton in 2016.

Colorado voted for Clinton last time but picked former President George W. Bush in 2000.

Critics of the Electoral College system have long argued it incentivizes candidates to target swing states with a bounty of electoral votes, while discouraging turnout by voters in states that are reliably red or blue.

Opponents of the current electoral system also say that electing a president through a popular vote could improve how presidents govern in office.

John Koza, the chairman of the National Popular Vote, a group that advocates for the compact, said the Electoral College “distorts” public policy by incentivizing presidents to cater to key swing states while in office, particularly in their first term.

"It's not only unfair that the second place candidate can win, it's also not good for the office of president or the country,” he said.

“When you're sitting in the White House … you say, ‘What states do I have to win and what do I have to do to win them?' That's just not a good way for public policy to be set,” Koza added.

Advocates of the compact are holding up hope that more steps will follow Colorado in joining the compact, which was first introduced in academic research papers as a way to effectively get rid of the electoral college system without going through the daunting process of a constitutional amendment.

The most promising is New Mexico, which has already passed a popular vote bill through one chamber and has a Democratic Governor.

Should it pass, the state would add 5 electoral votes to the compact, bringing the total to 186.

Meanwhile, legislators in 16 states have introduced bills this session seeking to join the compact, according to National Popular Vote.

Of those, Democratically-controlled Delaware, Maine, Nevada and Oregon look the most promising, with a total tally of 20 additional votes that could bring the total to 206 – though even there, the prospects are far from guaranteed.

Oregon state Rep. Diego Hernandez (D), a sponsor of the state’s popular vote bill, said there may not be enough momentum in the current legislative session to pass.

“We have so many big issues we're tackling this session, when it comes to housing and the environment and education and revenue reform, that although the conversation's happening, I'm not sure that it's the top priority in terms of the collective agenda,” Hernandez said.

But the prospect of passage in some of the other 16 states where a popular vote bill has been introduced look far less certain given many have split powers or are deep-red, like South Carolina or Mississippi.

Republicans are mostly opposed to any measure to derail the Electoral College system, seeing as unconstitutional.

Opponents of using the popular vote to elect presidents have long argued it would result in candidates catering to large cities and large states to rack up votes, which tend to have a bigger share of Democratic voters, ignoring smaller or rural areas.

Rose Pugliese, a county commissioner in Colorado, said in a tweet she had petitioned the Secretary of State not to award the state’s votes to the winner of the popular vote, saying such a move “allows California and New York to decide Colorado’s votes for President.”

Nonetheless advocates of the compact remain hopeful.

Koza, the National Popular Vote chairman, said garnering the necessary support by 2020 was “theoretically” possible, but believed it was more likely by 2024.

"You never know how a bandwagon can get rolling,” he said. “So at the moment, I couldn't name states that would get us there in time for 2020, although there's theoretically ways to do it. It seems perfectly plausible that we should get there by 2024."


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1 posted on 03/03/2019 5:38:03 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Doesn’t a change to the electoral college require a constitutional amendment?


2 posted on 03/03/2019 5:40:29 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: yesthatjallen

Very little to see here as we ALL know Leftists hate the U.S.Constitution.


3 posted on 03/03/2019 5:42:03 PM PST by A strike (I DEMAND my responsibilities!)
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To: meatloaf

Yes — and good luck with that, CommieRATs.


4 posted on 03/03/2019 5:42:23 PM PST by Nothingburger
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To: yesthatjallen

the leftards always bring this up when there’s a sitting GOP president but when Obamatard was golfing for 8 years, crickets..


5 posted on 03/03/2019 5:42:46 PM PST by max americana (Fired libtards at our company for the past 12 yrs at every election. I hope all liberals die.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Isn’t it the blue states that don’t believe in the US Constitution and look for ways to circumvent it all the time?

What next? Secession? Before that happens I suggest we deport all leftists to any communist or Islamic country that will take them. Canada and Mexico are basically communist now so they may not even have to move all that far.


6 posted on 03/03/2019 5:43:01 PM PST by Boomer (We are one dem President away from America being destroyed into communism)
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To: A strike

It’ll be interesting if Trump wins the popular vote and they have to give their states votes to him!


7 posted on 03/03/2019 5:43:44 PM PST by nobamanomore
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To: yesthatjallen

Not to worry Tx will soon beVERY BLUE!! Thousands of thousands of invaders have already settled here and ready to vote for the RATS plus the influx of blue communists sickos coming from cali! Az has just about tilted over into the blue toilet water..Tx is next!! Thanks to the backstabbing republican representatives who are determined to slit their own and our throats!!!


8 posted on 03/03/2019 5:45:30 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: yesthatjallen
Here come the Millies.
9 posted on 03/03/2019 5:45:31 PM PST by coaster123 (Bring back the curtsy. - If one is alive one is privileged.)
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The author barely acknowledges the arguments against the plan.

Does anyone really think that the Democrats would abide by the compact, if they ever got above the target of states with 270 or more electoral votes, if it would deprive them of a victory in the Presidential election? Either blue state electors would refuse to vote for the Republican candidate, or the states would quickly rescind their participation in the compact in the interval between election day and when the electoral college votes.

10 posted on 03/03/2019 5:45:42 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: meatloaf

“Doesn’t a change to the electoral college require a constitutional amendment?”

Details...


11 posted on 03/03/2019 5:46:12 PM PST by rhc2000
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To: yesthatjallen

This sounds like collusion to circumvent to Constitution.
These people should be charged with Conspiracy to Overthrow the legitimate government and Constitution.


12 posted on 03/03/2019 5:48:19 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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To: Nothingburger

It’s spring and there’s lead in the air.Seriously if they want a civil war,this action would be a good way to start things out.


13 posted on 03/03/2019 5:48:28 PM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: nobamanomore

lol I have been saying this, ut like all the leftists that gave money to stormy’s “legal” fund which ended up paying President Trumps lawyers, what a hoot if NY, Kali, Ill, EC votes go to Trump in 2020. The way I see it, no one who voted for Trump will not again, and plenty who didn’t will this time after seeing the demonrat leftist party completely exposed


14 posted on 03/03/2019 5:48:33 PM PST by blitz88
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To: nobamanomore
It’ll be interesting if Trump wins the popular vote and they have to give their states votes to him!

They're Democrats, they will simply repeal the law if Trump wins the popular vote. If you accept the fact that they can make up this silly rule, you have to accept the fact that they can change this silly rule. They will never ever ever overrule their voters and give Trump the electoral votes.

15 posted on 03/03/2019 5:48:50 PM PST by dead (Our next president is going to be sooooo boring.)
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To: yesthatjallen

16 posted on 03/03/2019 5:53:30 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: yesthatjallen

Seems they are violating the rights of their voters, the US Constitution against forming alliances, and a whole host of other illegal activities.


17 posted on 03/03/2019 5:55:54 PM PST by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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To: yesthatjallen

The liberal left follow obamas example ..”make up your own laws and pay no attention to the constitution”.
They can’t do whatever they in a federal election.. unless the gop does nothing..and let’s laws be broken


18 posted on 03/03/2019 5:58:04 PM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: yesthatjallen

This will be funny when trump wins the popular vote in 2020


19 posted on 03/03/2019 5:58:36 PM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: yesthatjallen

Even if it does take effect will it really matter if all the red states continue to vote by electors?


20 posted on 03/03/2019 5:58:40 PM PST by jarwulf
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