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Blue states band together looking to bypass Electoral College
The Hill ^ | 03/03/19 | Michael Burke

Posted on 03/03/2019 5:38:03 PM PST by yesthatjallen

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To: yesthatjallen

If the Bible is accurate then American is damned by God.


141 posted on 03/03/2019 10:55:53 PM PST by NoLibZone (America's dead. Gone. Get used to it. The Trump admin has shown the experiment has ended.)
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To: yesthatjallen

All the SocDem states banding together to give their EC votes to the popular vote winner will not affect the election unless the Republican candidate manages to eke out a popular win what with the really massive vote fraud that will be in play. If that were to happen then the “compact” would give a humoungous EC win tho the Republican.


142 posted on 03/04/2019 1:38:04 AM PST by arthurus (m)
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To: RoseofTexas

Florida will most likely vote SocDem in 2020 because the Democrats control the vote and the count in several large Florida cities. The vote totals in several counties will double the number of eligible voters and the count will be accepted by the Republicans, complained about but accepted.


143 posted on 03/04/2019 1:41:14 AM PST by arthurus (j)
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To: yesthatjallen

What about all the red voters in the deep blue states who never bother to vote because they know their votes don’t mean squat? Will they now turn out in droves?

Will this backfire on the demonRats?


144 posted on 03/04/2019 2:02:19 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Trump: "America will never be a socialist country!")
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To: yesthatjallen

The END of PEACEFUL TRANSITIONS....the END of AMERICA!!


145 posted on 03/04/2019 2:06:19 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: yesthatjallen
The states making up the compact, which already includes New York, Illinois and all the New England states except for New Hampshire, would commit to awarding their electoral votes to whoever wins the popular vote nationally, regardless of the results in the Electoral College.

This will backfire spectacularly on the Leftists:

A. Trump wins the popular vote in 2020.
B. All blue states are forced to flip their electoral votes to Trump.
C. Leftists have another meltdown.
D. Microwave more popcorn.

146 posted on 03/04/2019 2:55:57 AM PST by Flick Lives
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To: meatloaf
A plan to circumvent the Electoral College is gaining momentum among blue states after Democrats suffered two crushing defeats in presidential elections over the past two decades.

The Electoral College prevents mob rule. The Communist-inspired Democrats know this, but will do anything to take over and destroy our country.

What we need is an Electoral College at the county level for each State to prevent the mob rule that takes place right now because a handful of counties dominate the state level elections. These counties are characterized by high crime, drugs, corrupt politics, and questionable voting records.

Implementing the Electoral College at the county level for each state will prevent the mob rule that is taking place today, and give the forgotten men and women of the country a voice in the electoral process.

147 posted on 03/04/2019 3:22:06 AM PST by olezip
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To: yesthatjallen

Folks, these tactics are stupid but constitutional. States can allocate their electoral votes in any way they choose. Nebraska and Maine are esamples of other methods.

Nothing in the Constitution requires a state to award electoral votes to the winner of that state’s popular vote.

Republicans in the states that have adopted this massively UNFAIR scheme need to reverse the laws in those states before it is too late.


148 posted on 03/04/2019 3:55:22 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: meatloaf

Time for some lawsuits.


149 posted on 03/04/2019 4:09:52 AM PST by pas
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To: TheNext
You are clueless. Quit spouting nonsense

Well, since May of 1998, I suppose I've posted a lot of nonsense.

To which particular nonsense of mine does your post refer?

150 posted on 03/04/2019 4:42:26 AM PST by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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To: Fresh Wind
What about all the red voters in the deep blue states who never bother to vote because they know their votes don’t mean squat?

New Jersey is already planning to keep Trump off the ballot in 2020. California will probably limit ballot access, as they already do in statewide races, using their jungle primary system.

As others have well pointed out, there is no "national popular vote" that could be tabulated, verified, and certified, but if blue states can keep a Republican or other opposition party candidate (I think the GOP is finished) off the ballot, then it really won't matter anyway.

151 posted on 03/04/2019 4:47:08 AM PST by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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To: KC_Conspirator
This will last until a Republican wins the national vote.

The cynic in me says that if or when that happens, it will be the GOP wanting to do away with the EC.

Leave the system as it is. It may not be perfect but the alternatives are much worse.

152 posted on 03/04/2019 4:58:13 AM PST by Sir_Humphrey (Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people -Socrates)
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To: Boomer
What next? Secession?

What is the impetus for Conservative states to remain in the union if the citizens of those states have been disenfranchised from the Presidential election by NY and CA?

153 posted on 03/04/2019 5:04:55 AM PST by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We MAGA)
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To: Jim Noble
New Jersey is already planning to keep Trump off the ballot in 2020. California will probably limit ballot access, as they already do in statewide races, using their jungle primary system.

Both of those situations would be ripe for a court challenge. Hopefully, RBG will be dead by then (if she isn't already dead), and a suitable replacement will have been confirmed.

The precedent in the People's Democratic Republic of New Jersey would be the illegal ballot replacement of Robert "The Torch" Toricelli by Frank "The Walking Corpse" Lautenberg, the NJ Supreme Court's justification being that "the public interest" depended on having two opposing candidates on the ballot.

Who knows what the Rats in Kalifornica will try.

154 posted on 03/04/2019 5:33:14 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Trump: "America will never be a socialist country!")
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To: Fresh Wind
Both of those situations would be ripe for a court challenge.

Challenge to what?

The Constitution grants State Legislatures the exclusive right to appoint Electors for President and Vice President. The Constitution doesn't even imply that a popular vote should be involved (except in the very poorly drafted XXII Amendment).

155 posted on 03/04/2019 5:53:02 AM PST by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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To: arrogantsob
I honestly had not expected it myself...I thought they would look for some way around it.

Excellent observation on your account. That seems to be right on the money:

"...(Article 1 - The Legislative Branch Section 10 - Powers Prohibited of States) No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation..."

Can't get much clearer than that. Good job, arrogantsob...thanks for posting that.

156 posted on 03/04/2019 6:11:22 AM PST by rlmorel (If racial attacks were as common as the Left wants you to think, they wouldn't have to make them up.)
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To: Fresh Wind

I am in a deep blue state, but I damn well make sure my futile voice is heard in every election no matter what...or, how futile!

I would like to see it backfire in the way you describe...wouldn’t THAT be delicious!


157 posted on 03/04/2019 6:18:54 AM PST by rlmorel (If racial attacks were as common as the Left wants you to think, they wouldn't have to make them up.)
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To: yesthatjallen
"...EVIL NEVER SLEEPS..."

You have that right. I have often made the analogy of Conservatism vs. Leftism in two ways:


First, Leftism is a one-way ratchet. Ideological ground given up to the Left is rarely regained, and it is why we must fight doggedly for each inch given.

Second, Conservatives are like the boy with his finger plugging a leaking hole in a dike. Leftists are the mass of water on the other side, never sleeping, always with pressure on everywhere, always searching for a crack, no matter how small, via which they may infiltrate a value system and corrode it to their will. Conservatives must be on guard, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, and even the smallest lapse in watchfulness will result in an infiltration.


That is what happened to me. I fell asleep on watch with this. I had heard minor rumblings, only to wake up when I heard this, looked out the window and saw the lava flow approaching.

158 posted on 03/04/2019 6:33:32 AM PST by rlmorel (If racial attacks were as common as the Left wants you to think, they wouldn't have to make them up.)
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To: LeoTDB69
“It’ll be interesting if Trump wins the popular vote and they have to give their states votes to him!”

Wouldn’t happen. They’d ignore the pact and refuse to cast their votes for Trump anyway.

Yup. I think that's their plan: cast their EVs for the rat in any and all cases, regardless of the peoples' votes.

159 posted on 03/04/2019 7:32:48 AM PST by matt1234 (Jan. 20, 2017: the national nightmare ended.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Even better! The reality is that these are not national votes anyway, so such a law only restates the Constitutional intent of the EC, so if challenged, should not be struck down.


160 posted on 03/04/2019 8:10:19 AM PST by zencycler
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