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Supreme Court Justices examine alleged racial gerrymandering in Virginia House of Delegates
WTVR ^ | March 18, 2019

Posted on 03/18/2019 5:23:38 PM PDT by SMGFan

- No one directly involved in the case wanted to predict what may happen, but oral arguments before the Supreme Court of the United States gave the first look at how the nine justices view key points of contention in the case of alleged racial gerrymandering in certain House of Delegates districts.

A 2018 lower court ruling found Virginia's House map unconstitutional, and in February, the lower court implemented a new map drawn by a California scholar.

More than 370,000 voters in 25 House districts were moved under the new plan, according to the Virginia Public Access Project (VPAP). Virginia House Republicans are asking the Supreme Court to vacate the lower court ruling that found 11 minority-majority legislative districts were racially gerrymandered when they were initially drawn in 2011.

There are two overarching legal questions in the case: does the House have standing to appeal to the Supreme Court, and then if the court thinks they do, was the lower court finding of racial gerrymandering correct?

(Excerpt) Read more at wtvr.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
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RBG is back , again.
1 posted on 03/18/2019 5:23:38 PM PDT by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

It seems to me that the judiciary has no say in a purely legislative matter.


2 posted on 03/18/2019 5:29:31 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Being woke means you can be nasty, hateful and use racist slurs yet feel morally superior.)
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To: SMGFan
You can charge that the borders of districts are drawn to locate all minorities in a few district to minimize the total elections of minorities. So you sue on that basis. But if you redraw the borders without regard to the distribution of minorities you may end up with districts such that few minorities, if any, are elected. So you sue on that basis.
3 posted on 03/18/2019 5:31:00 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: SMGFan

a new map drawn by a California scholar.
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Professor at University of California at Irvine.

It’s a Democrat map to give them control of the House of Delegates.


4 posted on 03/18/2019 5:33:06 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SMGFan

What does Coonman think of this?


5 posted on 03/18/2019 5:33:56 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Draw a grid.... Google has a fine program.

http:\\plus.codes

Works just fine.

Imagine Google having a program that can be used for “good.”


6 posted on 03/18/2019 5:34:11 PM PDT by ptsal
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To: ptsal
Imagine Google having a program that can be used for “good.”

Google?? I had to do a double take on that one as it seems preposterous.

7 posted on 03/18/2019 5:38:41 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: SMGFan

Rectangular Representation is mathematically fair.


8 posted on 03/18/2019 5:40:57 PM PDT by TheNext (Participation Award Winner = CoC5)
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To: TheNext

Rectangular Representation is racially transparent.


9 posted on 03/18/2019 5:42:21 PM PDT by TheNext (Participation Award Winner = CoC5)
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To: fruser1

Speaking of whom, I haven’t heard anything of late of his woes, the Lieutenant Governor and AG. Rat outrage sure has a short shelf life, at least as to their own


10 posted on 03/18/2019 6:34:55 PM PDT by j.havenfarm ( 2,000 posts as of 1/16/19. A FReeper since 2000; never shutting up!)
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To: SMGFan

Judge Roberts throws another lifeline to the Dems.?


11 posted on 03/18/2019 7:09:53 PM PDT by Trumpnado2016 (Welcome to Trump World.)
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To: SMGFan

So now democrats are openly opposing the Voting Rights Act...


12 posted on 03/18/2019 7:55:18 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It seems to me that a lot of this continual court ‘battles’ would be settled if a line of text were written to say you have to use current county lines to draw any district.


13 posted on 03/18/2019 10:01:20 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: SMGFan

Districts should be mandated to be as compact and smooth as possible, while maintaining equal numbers of populations amongst them.


14 posted on 03/18/2019 10:07:47 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: SMGFan; All

Here is what happens when these remaps are made. Chicago ward remaps provide an example

COULD THIS BE WHY CHICAGOANS ARE SEEING RATS ?
The city of Chicago is composed of 50 wards which average out to around 72 precincts of about 350 or more voters in each precinct. Many are former villages incorporated into the city as the city grew. . A Chicago Alderman is in effect a mini mayor. They have input into who gets city services and now it’s how those services are being administered seem to be running into who’s ward is it ?.

What’s not being looked at is how Chicago wards have been redistricted. Chicago has had neighborhoods divided to create “Hispanic”residential sections going to Hispanic aldermanic and congressional (Gutierez) candidates and blacks going to black candidates.Which apparently is the result of the turnover in the Freddie and Fanny mortgage collapse. As stable integrated areas changed into being unstable because of constant dwelling turnover.had the effect of breaking up a contiguous geographic continuity and community identity. Because the wards affected which are really like small towns have had sections broken up into areas where if a problem arises in a given section of street which has one way traffic only. It may be two way a block down because it’s in a different ward. The same applies to all other city services including zoning and sanitation where garbage collection routes are organized by ward boundaries,

50 year Alderman Burke who is under federal charges for corruption ward is an example. Burke’s ward ,14th, needed remapping . The 14th was originally known as “Back of The Yards” Once the home of the famous Chicago Stock Yards where most food processors along with employee demographics have since relocated. It was a compact area almost 15 plus city blocks square area composed mostly of single and 2 story frame and brick family dwellings mixed with scattered brick apartment units. Because of the construction, insurance rates varied and became known as the condemned as “redlining”. When the democrats also warily supported by the Bush 2 administration came up with the no 20% down mortgage removed. Areas in the ward dramatically changed in demographics. Many of those dwellings sold under those conditions went into disrepair or default.

Originally his ward headquarters and palace was on 51st street just west of Damen Avenue. Today’s palace is just off of Pulaski Road near the Madam Curie high school just off of Archer Avenue miles away.

His ward now consists of areas carved from parts of the 12th ward (containing the communities known as Mc Kinley Park, and Brighton Park and parts of the 23rd ward having communities known as; Archer Heights, Garfield Ridge, and Clearing) Miles from the original 14th That In a former section of the 23rd ward now the 14th ward in the Midway airport area, 2 patrons in a local bar along Archer avenue were heard complaining about rats in their garbage. They felt it was because of the delay in garbage collection. Also heard the same beef about street snow removal.

It has also played hell on zoning and because of the disruption of jurisdictions with the administration of city services such as streets and sanitation which the alderman (salary $120.000 plus allocations on local projects) do oversee and have input over.

By.employing this concept of remapping residents are being denied the representation they should have ?

NEBRASKA STATE SENATOR CALLS AMERICAN FLAG A RAG

‘It’s a Rag’: Nebraska Lawmaker Compares American Flag to Swastika
Fox News Insider ^ | February 22, 2019 | Fox News Insider

Posted on 2/22/2019, 6:27:40 PM by GuavaCheesePuff

Nebraska State Sen. Ernie Chambers is taking criticism for calling the American flag a “rag” and comparing it to the Nazi swastika.

Chambers (I) made the comments Tuesday as he spoke out against a state bill that would update civics requirements for students.

“I don’t come here for this rag every day, and it’s a rag. That’s all it is to me,” Chambers said in reference to the flag. “When you show a way to persuade Jews to sanctify and worship the swastika, when you show me that I’ll come up here and stand while you all hypocritically pretend that rag is something that it definitely is not.”(Excerpt) Read more at insider.foxnews.com ...

IS CHAMBERS ELECTION A RESULT OF SELECTIVE REDISTRICTING ,
Since Nebraska has a unicameral one house legislature.How are those senate districts set up ? How many voters are required to make a district ?How often do they meet,and what’s the length of members term ? It looks like his district is laid out just to include blacks Chicago ward style* which is at the expense of the county, town, or area involved.


15 posted on 03/18/2019 10:31:00 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record)
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To: BillyBoy; Impy; PhilCollins

FYI


16 posted on 03/18/2019 11:12:05 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record)
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To: SMGFan
Full transcript of the oral arguments can be found here
17 posted on 03/19/2019 7:43:49 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: mosesdapoet; BillyBoy; Impy

I hope that Illinois legislators read about this. Illinois’ 1 and 2nd Districts were drawn because the majority of the voters are Blacks. The 4th Congressional District was drawn because the majority of its voters are Hispanic.


18 posted on 03/20/2019 8:24:19 AM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: PhilCollins; mosesdapoet; BillyBoy

Any ruling that you can’t do that would only **ck US. We need ‘those people’ packed together to keep the surrounding districts Republican. Spread out the minorities and you just end up electing a lot of White democrats (like IL) in place of Republicans, which is what the democrats are trying to do in VA.


19 posted on 03/26/2019 1:13:16 AM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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