Posted on 04/28/2019 10:35:02 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
House Majority Whip James E. Clyburn (D-S.C.) on Sunday offered a sharp rejoinder to President Trump’s lauding of Robert E. Lee as a “great general,” noting that Trump “always said that he hated losers.”
“The fact of the matter is, Robert E. Lee was a great tactician,” Clyburn said on ABC News’s “This Week,” then added, “Was not a great person. Robert E. Lee was a slave owner and a brutal slave master. Thankfully, he lost that war. And I find it kind of interesting that the president is now glorifying a loser. He always said that he hated losers. Robert E. Lee was a loser.”
On Saturday, Trump defended his 2017 comment that there were “very fine people on both sides” of the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville. He argued that the media had misinterpreted what he said and that he was talking about “people that went because they felt very strongly about the monument to Robert E. Lee — a great general, whether you like it or not.”
“People were there protesting the taking down of the monument of Robert E. Lee. Everybody knows that,” Trump said.
Clyburn said Sunday that Trump was “expressing what’s in his heart.”
Trump has often said that he is not a fan of “losers.” As a presidential candidate in 2015, for instance, Trump criticized Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) for having been captured during the Vietnam War and for having lost his 2008 bid for the White House.
“He lost,” Trump said of McCain. “He let us down. I never liked him as much after that because I don’t like losers.”
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Back in the day, one of the things we learned in Social Studies, around 7th grade, was how important the relationships between the North/South military leaders were to the recovery after the Civil War.
West Point friendships helped to bind the Nation’s wounds to lead the way to the future.
Not exactly.
What do you think the "abolitionist solution" was? Was it the same as was adopted in any other Christian country? Do you know; or do you just spout off emotionally like a typical left-winger?
ML/NJ ("Honest Yankee")
There were TWO countries to pick from, CSA and the USA. There was no "America" nation.
“House Majority Whip James E. Clyburn (D-S.C.) on Sunday offered a sharp rejoinder to President Trump’s lauding of Robert E. Lee as a ‘great general,’ noting that Trump ‘always said that he hated losers.’”
See, if Trump made the accusation that Clyburn made, they would rightly be able to call Trump a liar, which is exactly what Clyburn is.
Trump never said at any point in his life as a business man, entertainer, or politician that “he hated losers”. Saying he likes or prefers winners is not remotely the same as saying someone hates losers. And the specific comment being referenced was directed at the treasonous and traitorous McCain.
We do not know whether McCain acted dishonorably when he was a prisoner of war. We do not know if he avoided death by abandoning his plane or giving up strategic information to the enemy. We do not know if he ever broke under duress and torture or not. But we do KNOW that he has been a traitor and liar as a politician.
So, while President Trump never said he hated loser and enemy of the nation, John McCain, a lot of people do for a good reason.
Finally, when President Trump says he does this or that, or thinks this or that, no one in his right mind interprets that this is some kind of universal guiding principle by which the president must always act in all cases. Saying he prefers winners is merely a generalization.
However, what Clyburn said was an outright LIE. Clyburn is a LIAR.
For all of Robert E. Lee’s flaws as well as talents as a general, he is just a historical figure. I’m far more concerned about the modern-day slavery that’s happening all around us. Muslims still practice it openly. And all over the world the sex trade puts people into the worst kinds of slavery. And related to this, unborn babies are being murdered by the millions. Clyburn and politicians like him are happy to take blood money that comes from this modern-day atrocity. We don’t have to go back two centuries to learn about it. It’s happening today with the help of wicked men like Clyburn.
Lee was not a slave owner.
Clyburn is an ignoramus and a moron.
Perhaps Clyburn is feeling left off the Trump tweet list?
They better watch out. in 20 years these very same judgmental people sitting as armchair quarterbacks to others, are gonna be judged losers as well.
Bingo.
C-ville was all theater with antifa actors playing both sides. Sort of like a civil war reenactment. Irony.
I’ve got one too.
Clyburn: “And I find it kind of interesting that the
president is now glorifying a loser.”
Well Mr Clyburn, you and your ilk glorified the lazy total loser black first president for 8 un-preductive years. He left office with the U.S. in shambles. Name his 3 greatest achievements so we can all laugh.
Amen.
No.
Almost exactly.
Clyburn hasn’t said anything intelligent in his entire career. This is no exception.
Lee owned slaves for some years. Some claimed he whipped them harshly, but I don’t think anyone has any proof it happened. He believed slavery was better than giving them freedom. All indications are that most slaves disagreed with him on that, but he didn’t ask them...
He also took captured free blacks in Pennsylvania back with him to the South. ( https://studycivilwar.wordpress.com/2015/12/01/the-plight-of-african-americans-in-the-path-of-the-army-of-northern-virginia-in-the-gettysburg-campaign/ )
He was an excellent general, but he also benefited from mostly fighting on his home turf. He didn’t do as well in Pennsylvania as he did in Virginia. He was willing to accept greater casualties in the first part of the war than the North was, but it cost him badly when he failed to deliver a knock-out blow.
However, I second your praise of G.H. Thomas, whom I have always admired. It took guts to stay with the Union when so many Virginians followed their state into disaster. I wish Thomas had been with the Army of the Potomac. Lee might not have had his way with that army with commanders like Thomas on the other side.
General Thomas’s weakness, if you can call it that, was that he wasn’t an egotistical self-promoter.
‘Robert E. Lee inherited slaves through his wife and then freed them. I have not read any accounts of him being a “brutal slave master”.
I have heard that he may have been stern on occasion, but from all that I have gleaned regarding his character, the term ‘brutal’ seems unlikely...
The secession movement was led by the slave-holding planter elite who wanted to preserve slavery for all time but ironically brought about its demise much sooner than it would have ended otherwise. Lee's successes in 1862 caused Lincoln to abandon his earlier intention not to interfere with slavery (in part for fear of losing Kentucky and the other slave states which had not seceded) and to issue the Emancipation Proclamation.
Maybe led but not the entire reason for the separatist movement.
That’s the narrative that race pimp uses. Inflammatory language with zero chance anybody will check it. Blax B used to that. We been doing it fity years.
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