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Liz Cheney: Strzok-Page texts sound ‘like a coup,’ could be ‘treason’
Fox News ^ | May 26, 2019 | Adam Shaw

Posted on 05/26/2019 10:30:29 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

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To: SaveFerris
I'm constantly amused by those who assume a mantle of authority as they lecture that an attempted coup is not treason. For some reason, they insist on reading into the specific constitutional clause that:

(a) it must be a foreign entity;
(b) that foreign entity must be a (recognized) state actor; and
(c) there must be a formal declaration of war.

I guess my question to them is, have you read the passage? Can you point out where it specifies a, b and/or c? Of course, for anyone with a clue, it's a ridiculous construct on its very face. Using their defined characteristics, for example:

1. A US citizen aiding & abetting in Pearl (eg sabotage of defensive capability) would not be guilty of treason since a state of war technically didn't exist before the attack.

2. A mutiny by the armed services in an attempt to mount a military coup would not be treason since it wasn't (i) a foreign power; and (ii) there wasn't a declared state of war.

I could go on, but I assume people will quickly grasp the point. The bottom line is, under no possible scenario do organized, domestic (non foreign, non recognized state) conspirators get a pass for attempting to overthrow (state of war doesn't exist, nor is it formally declared) the legally constructed government of the USA.

A favorite phrase I see around the interwebs these days is the founders - you know, the guys who wrote the document - would have already been stacking bodies by now.

61 posted on 05/26/2019 2:56:49 PM PDT by semantic
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To: for-q-clinton

If you consider the strict constitutional definition of treason, you are correct insofar as this situation not applying to that description. So sedition is probably a more appropriate charge.

The key to solving this conundrum is to get the Democrat Party, modern day progressives, cultural Marxists, and all their allies declared as “enemies of the United States.”

NEVER would that term be more appropriately applied, in all of this nation’s history.


62 posted on 05/26/2019 3:52:56 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: semantic

They definitely tried to overthrow a legally-elected President.


63 posted on 05/26/2019 5:19:34 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Navy Patriot

So, didn’t the ABC interviewer set her straight?


64 posted on 05/26/2019 5:25:11 PM PDT by daler
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To: daler
So, didn’t the ABC interviewer set her straight?

She tried, but Liz took it away from her and beat her over the head, setting her straight on the Mueller report release being fully available to Congressional view.

Then, when Liz extended her right arm toward the bimbo as if she was holding a coffee mug, the broad started having trouble breathing.

65 posted on 05/26/2019 5:40:06 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: Navy Patriot

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66 posted on 05/26/2019 11:39:34 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
ProtectOurFreedom wrote: "Also the next section of the U.S. Code, § 2385. 18 U.S. Code § 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government;..." If the antifa groups sponsorship can be traced back to 0 or illary, then there's the " violence" part of it.
67 posted on 05/26/2019 11:42:17 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Can you imagine if President Trump ever, even once, referred to him as 'Struck-Stroke-Smirk'?

The Press/Democrat outrage would almost be too delicious to handle.

LOL - Great one Eagle..

68 posted on 05/27/2019 9:12:16 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC bimbos stand WITH illegals against Americans and WITH China against our companies.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Advocating the assassination of POTUS sure as Hell sounds like violence. Last Friday I saw something on Occupy Democrats advocating such. “Where’s Lee Harvey Oswald when he’s needed”. Said in jest to claim “plausible deniability? I don’t think the Secret Service is humored by such. This was reported, and no, they don’t find this humorous one bit.
Sheldon Siegel of San Francisco (the lib puke with such “humor”), you will be getting a visit.


69 posted on 05/27/2019 11:24:39 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Fred Hayek

The 25 or 30 Democrats who plotted and executed the coup were very careful to not suggest violence or the violent overthrow of the government.


70 posted on 05/27/2019 2:23:58 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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