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Led not into temptation: pope approves change to Lord's Prayer
guardian ^ | 6/76/2019 | harriet sherwood

Posted on 06/07/2019 7:12:21 AM PDT by RummyChick

Its words are memorised by Christian children all over the world and repeated at almost every act of Christian worship: “Our Father, who art in heaven … ”

Now Pope Francis has risked the wrath of traditionalists by approving a change to the wording of the Lord’s Prayer. Instead of saying “lead us not into temptation”, it will say “do not let us fall into temptation”.

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1 posted on 06/07/2019 7:12:21 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

I’m not in the least religious, but this Frank guy is truly a communist jerkoff.


2 posted on 06/07/2019 7:14:30 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: RummyChick

Jesus Christ Himself gave us this prayer.

But the Nope Pope knows better than Jesus.


3 posted on 06/07/2019 7:16:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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To: tomkat

‘Pope Wanker the first’.


4 posted on 06/07/2019 7:16:06 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: RummyChick

Whatever... King James was hardly around when Christ recited the prayer.


5 posted on 06/07/2019 7:20:38 AM PDT by rhombus10
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To: RummyChick

Insanity at best. Malicious at worst.


6 posted on 06/07/2019 7:21:09 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: RummyChick

Yeh sure....I’m going to remember that after 70 years of the REAL Our Father.


7 posted on 06/07/2019 7:21:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: RummyChick

1 Corinthians 10:13

“...God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.”


8 posted on 06/07/2019 7:22:29 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: RummyChick

The popester can change the prayer all he wants, but it does not change Protestant or Orthodox Lord’s prayers.


9 posted on 06/07/2019 7:23:44 AM PDT by madison10
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To: RummyChick

What’s the point of changing this?


10 posted on 06/07/2019 7:24:12 AM PDT by dinodino
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Control.


11 posted on 06/07/2019 7:24:53 AM PDT by madison10
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To: RummyChick

The actual words of Jesus is much closer to “Lead us not into temptation”, but the Pope has concluded that Jesus made a mistake, and no one will understand what he really meant. But as I’ve said, it would take a supreme idiot to think it means that God tempts people like the devil does.


12 posted on 06/07/2019 7:26:38 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: RummyChick

This is a better translation to English. The Lord will never lead us in to temptation.

James 1:13 ESV /

Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God,” for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one.


13 posted on 06/07/2019 7:26:53 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions.)
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To: dinodino

I think it is for clarity. The Lord does NOT really lead us into temptation, and although more difficult to remember for us old people the new way makes sense. Christ’s meaning may have been lost in the original translation.


14 posted on 06/07/2019 7:28:05 AM PDT by madison10
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To: RummyChick
Instead of saying “lead us not into temptation”, it will say “do not let us fall into temptation”.

The Pope has no right to change scripture.

The original Lord's prayer was probably uttered in Aramaic, not English.

Any Biblical scholars out there who can tell us what the correct translation from the original might be into English?

15 posted on 06/07/2019 7:30:09 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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God created all things, including angels and Lucifer, the angels’ jealous, fallen leader. So, they’re effectively His, too. This Pope says Lucifer leads to temptation, well, that relates to He that created Lucifer. No?

This is the camel’s nose in the tent. He/they get away rewriting this core Christian thing...watch out!


16 posted on 06/07/2019 7:32:34 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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“The original Lord’s prayer was probably uttered in Aramaic, not English. “

And there is no record of the Aramaic version.


17 posted on 06/07/2019 7:33:12 AM PDT by FewsOrange
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Nor Catholic either.


18 posted on 06/07/2019 7:33:58 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Whatever is pure, anything of excellence, and anything praiseworthy—keep thinking about these thing)
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To: RummyChick

The Catholic Bible has its own version of the Ten Commandments as well. Seriously, the Catholic Church actually put themselves above God and changed His law that He wrote on stone thus is meant to stand forever.


19 posted on 06/07/2019 7:38:57 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: RummyChick

I’ll say it my way.


20 posted on 06/07/2019 7:43:03 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Nothing makes the delusional more furious than truth.)
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