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To: cuban leaf

[[2. Still put the burden of proof on those supporting the removal of guns from the person flagged.]]

Nope- when someone wants to frame someone, they will invent ‘evidence’ against the person- too many innocent peopel will be jailed, then labelled a felon

The red flag laws can not work- we already have laws that designate truly mentally ill people too dangerous to own guns, but the standard is much higher now- once red flag laws get enacted, this standard of proof will be lowered- a lot- democrats are out to confiscate guns AND turn law abiding citizens into felons-

3: As Rand said, it is only temporary until the person gets their “day in court” to make it permanent or long term.

Many people can’t afford competent representation-


20 posted on 08/13/2019 11:45:09 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

Nope- when someone wants to frame someone, they will invent ‘evidence’ against the person- too many innocent peopel will be jailed, then labelled a felon


That is tried in family court all the time. ;)

Two or more witnesses is a good rule and comes right out of the bible.

And you are right, you can’t really defend yourself against an effective conspiracy to frame you. It’s always been that way, though.

And to be clear, I think the standard would still need to be very high. I also think that anyone of psychotropic drugs should not be allowed to own guns, nor should anyone with whom they share a domicile be allowed to store firearms on the premises.


40 posted on 08/13/2019 11:56:17 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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