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Feds Order Apple And Google To Hand Over Names Of 10,000+ Users Of A Gun Scope App
Forbes ^ | September 6th, 2019 | Thomas Brewster

Posted on 09/06/2019 10:02:55 AM PDT by Mariner

Own a rifle? Got a scope to go with it? The government might soon know who you are, where you live and how to reach you.

That’s because Apple and Google have been ordered by the U.S. government to hand over names, phone numbers and other identifying data of at least 10,000 users of a single gun scope app, Forbes has discovered. It’s an unprecedented move: Never before has a case been disclosed in which American investigators demanded personal data of users of a single app from Apple and Google. And never has an order been made public where the feds have asked the Silicon Valley giants for info on so many thousands of people in one go.

According to a court order filed by the Department of Justice (DOJ) on September 5, investigators want information on users of Obsidian 4, a tool used to control rifle scopes made by night-vision specialist American Technologies Network Corp. The app allows gun owners to get a live stream, take video and calibrate their gun scope from an Android or iPhone device. According to the Google Play page for Obsidian 4, it has more than 10,000 downloads. Apple doesn’t provide download numbers, so it’s unclear how many iPhone owners have been swept up in this latest government data grab.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amtech; apple; banglist; doj; google; googleplaypage; governmentdatagrab; obsidian4
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To: Mariner

Just the FBI laying ground work for the potential democrat return to power.


21 posted on 09/06/2019 10:20:20 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus mane)
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To: fruser1

It’s a great scope...


22 posted on 09/06/2019 10:20:20 AM PDT by maddog55
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To: grumpygresh

I posted the other day that President Trump is in office but not in control, as events clearly demonstrate, and was told by another freeper that he should resign if he’s that helpless.
Most people can’t wrap their heads around Fedzilla.


23 posted on 09/06/2019 10:21:04 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I think about 50 million of us need to go out and download this app today.


24 posted on 09/06/2019 10:22:13 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Cboldt

I wouldn’t doubt it.

The big tech folks are not defenders of our freedoms by any stretch of the imagination. They’re not the only ones either.

It really amazes me the business owners who buy off on the Leftist wish list.


25 posted on 09/06/2019 10:22:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: Mariner

"Our files show you were ABOUT to use this app, is that true, sir..?"

26 posted on 09/06/2019 10:24:17 AM PDT by gaijin
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Useless app. But it’s installed.
I have nothing that it’ll work with.


27 posted on 09/06/2019 10:24:26 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: Mariner

apple denied fbi phone access to a known killer terrorist after the fact,
but yet eagerly provides info on lawful citizens who oppose their views ..
w t f


28 posted on 09/06/2019 10:24:46 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd ((>> M A G A << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Good observation. We see a similar situation over in the UK with Boris Johnson. Mark Steyn has an interesting article about how boxed in Johnson has become. His opponents don’t mind if he is in charge — they just want to make sure he can’t do anything.


29 posted on 09/06/2019 10:24:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Mariner

This is tyranny and must be stopped.

Someone may have the app and no gun scope. If the app is doing nothing illegal, then the people who initiated this need to be kicked out of office.

If the app is illegal, then they can have it banned. Otherwise, go get kicked by a duck.


30 posted on 09/06/2019 10:27:05 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: Yo-Yo

“Lighten Up,
Francis!”
.
But,
It’s to be
Expected.


31 posted on 09/06/2019 10:27:34 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Mariner

To use streaming in order to REMOTELY use a precision rifle:

In what way do you think the authorities fear it would be used?

I think everyone who thinks about it knows.


32 posted on 09/06/2019 10:27:42 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: ClearCase_guy
This is what the Feds do when Trump is in office.

Put Bernie Sanders or Beto or any of the others in office and see what happens.

Is this supposed to make us feel better?

"You think things suck with our guy running the show? Just wait'll until their guy is running it!"

33 posted on 09/06/2019 10:28:49 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Mariner; waterhill; PROCON

Put me on the list (((ping)))….


34 posted on 09/06/2019 10:29:21 AM PDT by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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To: Envisioning

Banglist (((ping))))….


35 posted on 09/06/2019 10:29:58 AM PDT by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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To: gaijin

My prediction:

Any member of Antifa owning this app over the next two or maybe six years will be go totally unmolested by the authorities, especially if he has a really long Arab name containing dashes and “Al”:

He has nothing to worry about.

If one of US owns this?

You can cuff yourself now.


36 posted on 09/06/2019 10:31:02 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: I want the USA back

None of my guns have scopes.
Downloaded it anyway.


37 posted on 09/06/2019 10:32:07 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: Mariner

So those who have ARs and AKs have some scopes...many more do not. But most deer hunters definitely do have scopes. So once again the deer hunter with a scoped bolt action rifle will be the one who gets investigated.

Attention Deer hunters who think it’s OK to condemn those nasty black rifles. Forget it. They’re coming for you!


38 posted on 09/06/2019 10:33:49 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: gaijin

Google, Apple:

1. We’re very uncomfortable collabbing with the D.O.D.
2. We’re okay to do that with PRC intel, though, no prob
3. Can’t hand over a scum-bag’s kiddie porn to the cops
4. We operate a Hand-Over Express if a Tea-Party guy owns this app


39 posted on 09/06/2019 10:36:09 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Mariner; All
Possibly preemptive action in name of protecting soldiers of US and its allies?

Feds might be aggressive on this issue.

The U.S. Government’s Secret Inventions

Insights welcome.

40 posted on 09/06/2019 10:36:34 AM PDT by Amendment10
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