Posted on 09/20/2019 6:29:34 AM PDT by golux
“Not a big fan of parliamentary government.”
Totally agree. What makes it even worse is proportional representation which leads to having a dozen parties in parliament with no one in the majority, so they have to form coalition and you as a voter have no idea what the governing majority is going to look like or what it’s policies are going to be.
And the majority in parliament gets to pick the chief executive (PM), so you have the legislature and executive always of the same party which makes passing laws too easy.
Why listen to somebody who totally knows what they are talking about, when we can lounge about and watch Marvel and Game of Thrones and singers and kneelers, in the phony fckng “reality” made up by the leftist, communist, pro-islam, lying, basrterds in the “western” media???
But here stands the latest knesset seat breakdown:
The Central Election Committee (CEC) announced around 1:30 a.m. Friday the “almost final” results of the elections. The results confirmed the latest results reported, giving Benny Gantz’s Blue and White 33 seats and Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud 31 seats.
The committee explained that the results cannot be considered official, since official results will only be presented to President Reuven Rivlin and published on September 25.
Bibi can still win the PM by securing 61 people to form a government.
Gantz can also become the PM is he secures 61 people to form a government
61 is the magic number to secure a majority out of 120 seats in the Knesset. If neither can secure a majority, then Israel heads into a 3rd election. Which seems to not favor Bibi, or Lukid for that matter.
The sheeple are the boss, the leftists there like here are willing to burn down the house if they can rule the ashes.
You are correct. The determination to get rid of Netanyahu could mean Liberman joins the Left for a kind of minority government that would be reliant on the Arab party not obstructing. It would be a mess that couldn’t last long, but might last long enough to end Netanyahu’s political career, which is the main goal of Israel’s Deep State and big media.
On the other hand, maybe it’s best for Bibi to step aside for a bit, and let them sink themselves, and then return.
They’ll realize that you don’t know what you’ve got until it’s gone.
Until the next election, Bibi will remain Israel’s functioning prime minister. He will continue to make Israel’s foreign-policy and military decisions.
As for Israel’s economy, it’s been doing wonderfully under his free-market-principled leadership, and it will continue to do so because there’s no chance left-wing socialist politicians can gain power in Israel, now that its left-wing socialist party, Labor, has become virtually extinct.
So the best thing Bibi can do for himself and Israel is to try to schedule the next election as far into the future as possible, so he can continue to govern Israel; and if his opponent, Mr. Ganz, wants to argue about the date of the election, wonderful, his and Bibi’s supporters can spend the next year or two arguing about the election’s date while Bibi remains in power.
There is no such thing as a perfect election system. One of our boys (Kenneth Arrow) proved that a long time ago. Nevertheless, some democracies are better structured than others.
Regarding Israel; there are maybe three options:
A. A right-wing government. The ultra-orthodox parties give up deferments for their precious Talmidim, so those boys - like the girls of the country - serve in the IDF. I think such a concession to reality would enable a right-wing majority government to be formed (i.e., current government plus Beiteinu).
B. A unity government. Likud and Blue & White join into a “unity” government. Since Blue & White got more votes, they get Prime Minister. Netanyahu gets to be Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister. The main and perhaps only purpose of this coalition is to take the next step in the so-called peace process (what Blue & White describes as the separation process). Blue & White is pretty close to Likud on this matter. And, the coalition wouldn’t be handicapped by unreasonable demands by the ultra-orthodox.
C. A balanced-center coalition. This would be Blue & White plus the two small Zionist parties to its left and the two small secular Zionist parties to its right (roughly, Labor, Meretz, Beiteinu Yisrael and United Right, in addition to Blue & White). This coalition would be handicapped by the left-wing parties who persist in thinking you can negotiate with the Palestinians. That’s not going to happen in the foreseeable future.
The next step is blue slips in which members of the new Knesset indicate to the President whom they want to be given the first chance of forming a majority coalition. If the matter of deferments isn’t settle like right now, the leader of Blue & White will get the most blue slips. Then, it’s probably B or C.
BTW Trump is exactly 100 percent right: we have a special relation with Israel, not with any party or politician.
Gantz cannot form a government under any circumstances. He cannot build a majority coalition. Wednesday Netanyahu assembled the heads of all the right wing and religious parties that form the basis for Likud-led governing coalitions. The factions unified into one right-wing bloc and agreed on principles for future coalition talks. They agreed to conduct coalition talks as a bloc, under Netanyahu’s leadership. By forming this 55-member bloc, Netanyahu created a situation where he is the only possible prime minister. Either the Blue and White Party — or one of its three factions — joins him, or Amir Peretz and Orly Levy bring the Labor party in, or Israel goes to new elections. Those are the only options.
Arab parties cooperated to allow Rabin to become PM in 1992. It’s not true there are no alternatives.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/blue-and-white-looking-to-oust-knesset-speaker-edelstein-report/
The results from the Central Elections Committee showed Blue and White with 33 seats and Netanyahu’s right-wing [spin alert] Likud with 31. Third was the Joint List alliance of Arab-majority parties at 13, followed by the ultra-Orthodox parties Shas with nine and United Torah Judaism with eight.
Avigdor Liberman’s Yisrael Beytenu also had eight seats. Rounding out the list were Yamina with seven seats, Labor-Gesher with six and the Democratic Camp with five.
The center-left bloc, including the predominantly Arab Joint List — which has never been a member of the government — has increased its power to 57 seats, with the right-wing and religious bloc at 55. Neither has the 61-seat majority necessary to form a coalition, leaving Yisrael Beytenu in the kingmaker position.
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