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Michael Moore Challenges Elizabeth Warren: Capitalism Economically Enslaves People
Breitbart ^ | 10/15/2019 | David Ng

Posted on 10/16/2019 6:15:42 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: rktman
Michael ‘moore’(how appropriate!) threatens to raise level of great lakes.

He can do that by going for a swim


41 posted on 10/16/2019 7:03:28 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: cuban leaf
Fortunately most of them grow out of it before any real damage is done.

Always used to be true. But it appears the Left has found a way to use culture and social media to arrest that process. Plenty of Millenials are in their mid-30's and still buying this stuff.


42 posted on 10/16/2019 7:04:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
It’s only mission is to economically enslave the citizenry so the rich can get richer.

In a rational, modern, free, division of labor economy, wealth is not a zero sum game. Instead, when the rich get richer, the masses get richer too.

43 posted on 10/16/2019 7:06:07 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Why yes. And not just the one outside his mansion. All of them would rise.


44 posted on 10/16/2019 7:06:32 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

You may be inferring something that is not there. I definitely see being an employee as a modern form of “indentured slavery”.

“An indentured servant or indentured laborer is an employee (indenturee) within a system of unfree labor who is bound by a signed or forced contract (indenture) to work for a particular employer for a fixed time. ... On completion of the contract, indentured servants were given their freedom, and occasionally plots of land.”

From here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servitude

I work around people that either work two jobs or work tons of overtime just to make ends meet. These people are always either working or sleeping - just like a slave - and earn just barely enough to get by - just like a slave.


45 posted on 10/16/2019 7:07:00 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

hahahahahahahahahaha*gasp*hahahahahahahahahahahahahah*gasp*hahahahahahaahahahaahahaha*gasp*

The voluntary exchange of goods and services “economically enslaves people” while the forced collectivization of goods and services frees them...

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

/sarc


46 posted on 10/16/2019 7:07:28 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: unread

Ain’t a whole lot of difference there.....


That’s actually my point. :)


47 posted on 10/16/2019 7:07:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

We must try Communism since the Russians sucked at it.


48 posted on 10/16/2019 7:07:50 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yes, but in a post Dan Rather world, that is being reversed for Gen Z.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/


49 posted on 10/16/2019 7:12:48 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

capitalism did well by Michael Moore.

Mulitmillionaire that he is.


50 posted on 10/16/2019 7:14:47 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Yes, capitalism has been so bad for you clown.


51 posted on 10/16/2019 7:17:05 AM PDT by kempster
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Yes, capitalism has been so bad for you clown.

Do any of the rich multi-millionaire socialist voluntarily give their money to the government?

52 posted on 10/16/2019 7:18:50 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: ChicagoConservative27
".... In the only cases in recorded history where the masses have been able to escape grinding poverty is where they have had capitalism and free trade.... History is absolutely clear, that there is no alternative way so far discovered, of improving the lot of the ordinary people, that can hold a candle to the productive activities unleashed by the free enterprise system...." --Milton Friedman

Put that in your pipe and smoke it you fat phuque.

Famed Economist Milton Friedman On Capitalism

53 posted on 10/16/2019 7:31:10 AM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: rktman

I used to live in Moore’s hometown of Davison, Michigan.
I doubt he has darkened anyone’s door there since the day his first big Hollywood check cleared.

He splits his time between the Left Coast, Manhattan and Traverse City, where Chicago’s well-to-do go to summer.


54 posted on 10/16/2019 7:38:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

> “Michael Moore Challenges Elizabeth Warren: Capitalism Economically Enslaves People”

He’s worth north of $100 million based on BS films marketed by the progressive syndicate and picked up by political jokers in the state media.

Capitalism is a person with a shovel, a person with a plot of land, a person with a bag of seed, coming together to produce more than they need at a quantity that can be traded with others for other things that are needed. Profits are necessary so that there will exist trade. Trade satisfies basic needs and beyond, extending to things that might be characterized as ‘wealth’.

Moore conflates capitalism with people he saw get rich while autoworkers got laid off in Flint, MI. He then aligned with communists in labor unions and has been carrying their water ever since. Yet he’s set with monetary wealth that 99+% will never see much less think of ever having in their lifetimes and the lifetimes of generations of their descendants. He dares to act as spokesperson for the 99% against the 1% when he himself is of the 1%.


55 posted on 10/16/2019 7:56:36 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: cuban leaf
".... I work around people that either work two jobs or work tons of overtime just to make ends meet. These people are always either working or sleeping - just like a slave - and earn just barely enough to get by - just like a slave....."

Are you serious? The difference right on the surface is that these people get to keep their wages, while slaves don't get anything from their labors but enslavement. Big difference.

And why are these people struggling to get by? What kinds of jobs are they working at? Did they finish school and have an education? Do they have markable skills wanted in the workplace? Are they in beginning jobs like flipping burgers and serving french fries? Are they wasting their earnings on drink and drugs? Are they thinking they that they deserve better? Do they want someone else to pull them up by the bootstraps and buckle down for them? You didn't elaborate. You're not telling the whole story here.

This country, under the Constitution and capitalism, offers its people the freedom of opportunity to do what ever they set their minds and bodies to. It doesn't guarantee everyone will get rich but then it doesn't prevent them from getting ahead either.

And my last question for you is this. Why are you on a site like FR espousing these dreary, doom and gloom "employees are indentured slaves" crappola? That philosophy is the antithesis of what this site is about.

Maybe you should move over to the DU website where you will get a better reception for your ideas of "modern indentured slavery" under capitalism.

...."In the only cases in recorded history where the masses have been able to escape grinding poverty is where they have had capitalism and free trade.... History is absolutely clear, that there is no alternative way so far discovered, of improving the lot of the ordinary people, that can hold a candle to the productive activities unleashed by the free enterprise system." ---Milton Friedman

Famed Economist Milton Friedman On Capitalism

56 posted on 10/16/2019 8:05:05 AM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: cuban leaf

“Sure, you’re free to quit. So why don’t you? :D”

Actually, I’m sure many of us have, at one time or another. ;)


57 posted on 10/16/2019 8:09:37 AM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Taxes are a form of slavery.


58 posted on 10/16/2019 8:11:55 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: HotHunt

To be clear, I’m a huge supporter of capitalism. I’m just commenting more on the human condition itself.

And I use this example to explain freedom: The difference in quality of life between a person who lives in queens and never leaves, and a person that lives in a small town in the USSR, is that the person in queens at least knows/believes he could leave if he wanted to.

And at the end of the day, that is the difference between an employee and a slave. And as you pointed out. It’s a big difference.


59 posted on 10/16/2019 8:18:16 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Moore gets brain freeze when asked in what country has socialism works.


60 posted on 10/16/2019 8:38:26 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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