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To: C19fan

Excuse me?

Since when is Sondland’s personal opinion relevant?

Directly contradicts his testimony of 2 weeks ago.

And again. SO WHAT? There is NO CRIME here.

Ukraine did not launch investigation and got the aid. so even if the clown assumed there Quid Pro Quo was being demanded it was never done. There is NO such crime as “quid pro quo”.

To start with the Ukrainians have all ready shot this lie dead. There is no truth to these accusation at the President. It a wholly make up attempt to distract and deflect from real criminal wrong doing by the Democrats in the Ukraine during Obama’s regime

Ukraine Foreign Minister: U.S. Aid, Investigations Were ‘Never’ linked

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/14/ukraine-foreign-minister-aid-investigations-were-never-linked/

READ THE TRANSCRIPT you lying scumbags in the Fake News

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

Here is the problem for the Democrat Fascists and their toadies in the Fake New Media.

We will let them assume EVERYTHING is true and accurate in the “transcripts. We allow this nonsense of hearsay, feeling and assumptions to be allowed as “evidence”.

There is still no crime here.

If “Quid Pro Quo” or “bibery” or what ever they are lyinging call it today is a “Crime”, Joe Biden is guilty of one while VP.

Watch the video of him bragging about it.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/27/flashback_2018_joe_biden_brags_at_cfr_meeting_about_withholding_aid_to_ukraine_to_force_firing_of_prosecutor.html

The President would have a legal obligation to investigate this “crime” So if it is a crime, Trump was doing his duty, it is is NOT a crime what Biden did it would still need to be investigated to verify. In either case Trump is not guilty of anything.

It is either a crime or it is not. It cannot be a crime for Trump but not for Biden. If it is a crime, Trump is legally obligated to help investigate Bidens actions. .

Either way there is no legal standing to this continuing farce in the US House


4 posted on 11/20/2019 7:50:36 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: MNJohnnie

Why do people keep saying there’s no crime? There doesn’t have to be a crime. There just has to be enough votes to impeach and send it to the Senate.


28 posted on 11/20/2019 8:00:24 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Sondland completely changed his testimony. I guess he knew he had perjured himself the first time and wanted to fix it today.

Man, this was a bloodbath for Trump. Luckily for him it’s too complicated for his supporters to follow, so he will not be touched by this politically.


83 posted on 11/20/2019 9:02:19 AM PST by babble-on
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To: MNJohnnie

Don’t accept the premise in the first place...

Sonland is setting the Dems a nice trap.

He’s telling them that in order to have a call with Trump or White House visit, UKR. Needed to make a statement about 2016 meddling, and put in place key investigators to start looking...

Sonland said over and over....nothing about Biden...

So he’s giving them the quid pro quo...but it’s not the one the Dems want, and it’s certainly not a criminal act.

He’s playing them for suckers!


97 posted on 11/20/2019 9:25:26 AM PST by pacificus
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To: MNJohnnie
"Since when is Sondland’s personal opinion relevant?"

It isn't, but that's what all the lefties jumping up and down today think. Why anyone with half-a-brain would believe that Donald Trump would have demanded a quid-pro-quo deal with the Ukraine, so they'd investigate the actual quid-pro-quo demand made by Biden. Donald Trump is not a stupid man. Only an idiot would have committed the same action as Biden did, in order to get the Ukraine to investigate an already admitted, on camera quid pro quo. The whole thing makes no sense.

114 posted on 11/20/2019 10:24:14 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: MNJohnnie

The Ukrainian parliament just demanded an investigation into a 7.5 Billion bribery concerning the Oligarchs, the Democrats, and Poroshenko. The US is required by treaty to launch it. This is actually huge for exposing The Bidens, Clintonso and previous administration.


131 posted on 11/20/2019 12:03:50 PM PST by richardtavor
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