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Could Tax Increases Speed Up the Economy? Democrats Say Yes
New York Times ^ | December 5, 2019 | Jim Tankersley

Posted on 12/09/2019 10:55:26 AM PST by karpov

WASHINGTON — Elizabeth Warren is leading a liberal rebellion against a long-held economic view that large tax increases slow economic growth, trying to upend Democratic policymaking in the way supply-side conservatives changed Republican orthodoxy four decades ago.

Generations of economists, across much of the ideological spectrum, have long held that higher taxes reduce investment, slowing economic growth. That drag, the consensus held, would offset the benefits to growth from increased government spending in areas like education.

Ms. Warren and other leading Democrats say the opposite. The senator from Massachusetts, who is a leading candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, contends that her plans to tax the rich and spend the revenue to lift the poor and the middle class would accelerate economic growth, not impede it. Other Democratic candidates are making similar claims about their tax-and-spend proposals. Some liberal economists go further and say that simply taxing the rich would help growth no matter what the government did with the money.

Democrats in the past, including the party’s 2016 nominee, Hillary Clinton, have argued that a more modest combination of tax increases and spending programs would expand the economy. But no Democratic nominee before Ms. Warren had ever proposed so many new taxes and spending programs, and leaned so heavily into the argument that they would be, in economist parlance, pro-growth.

That argument tries to reframe a classic debate about the economic “pie” in the United States by suggesting there is no trade-off between increasing the size of the pie and dividing the slices more equitably among all Americans.

Ms. Warren has proposed nearly $3 trillion a year in new taxes on businesses and high-earners, largely focused on billionaires but sometimes hitting Americans who earn $250,000 and above per year. The taxes would fund wide-reaching new government spending

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bs; democrats; idiots; morons; stupidity; taxes; warren
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To: Red Badger

They want to take all of our money to protect us from it’s influences. And there are a lot of .gov types that believe that since the govt printed the money that it belongs to them in the first place.


21 posted on 12/09/2019 11:04:55 AM PST by Texas resident (Democrats=Enemy of People of The United States of America)
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To: karpov

Tax money will can speed up the local economy where taxed money is spent. But there won’t be enough money to speed up the economy every where the tax is collected.


22 posted on 12/09/2019 11:07:13 AM PST by ThomasThomas (Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions.)
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To: karpov

In any way, shape or form, have the Democrats ever been right about anything?


23 posted on 12/09/2019 11:07:26 AM PST by qaz123
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To: Real Cynic No More

>>>Do they have any historic examples to prove their theory? There are many of them to prove the opposite!

Bill Clinton passed the largest tax increase in American history and GDP grew fastet.


24 posted on 12/09/2019 11:07:37 AM PST by oincobx
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To: karpov

If you read the article with a Yakov Smirnoff voice and preface each insane claim with “in Soviet Russia”, you can make it to the end.


25 posted on 12/09/2019 11:07:45 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the disco)
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To: conservativepoet

She probably shouldn’t have said that.

Similar to saying she should not have claimed to be a NA.

Well if she could play football for the WASHINGTON REDSKINS she could make the

claim. Or get signed as an office gofer.


26 posted on 12/09/2019 11:08:35 AM PST by Surrounded_too
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To: karpov

Yes, let’s take money out of the economy, away from individuals and companies and that will help them make more money because they have less to invest and spend. Makes perfect sense to me! /s


27 posted on 12/09/2019 11:08:44 AM PST by Crucial
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To: karpov

A quick look at every high-tax Marx-O-Crat stronghold will dispel that myth right quick.


28 posted on 12/09/2019 11:08:45 AM PST by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept)
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To: karpov
the benefits to growth from increased government spending in areas like education.

leftard worshipers of big giverment:

fantasies + emotions + wishful thinking = reality

29 posted on 12/09/2019 11:09:55 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Tucker39

Warren should demonstrate this stupidity as Winston Churchill opined by standing in a washtub, grabbing the handles and lifting herself.


30 posted on 12/09/2019 11:10:04 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Hasn’t worked before”

We’ll do thee exact same thing as before, because “this time it’ll be different.” /s


31 posted on 12/09/2019 11:10:20 AM PST by BBQToadRibs
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To: karpov

The Communists will say and do ANYTHING to increase both their legalized theft, and illegal theft, of the “unwashed masses’ money to fund their vile, evil schemes.


32 posted on 12/09/2019 11:10:53 AM PST by lgjhn23
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To: HamiltonJay

I remember reading something - probably Dave Ramsey - that the vast majority of we Middle-Earners will have at least 1 million dollars pass through our hands during our working/earning years.

The trick is - keeping as much of it as you can!

But if you do, you’ll earn the wrath of loser Democrats who think YOUR money is THEIR money!


33 posted on 12/09/2019 11:12:08 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: karpov

And, 2 + 2 = 3.


34 posted on 12/09/2019 11:13:34 AM PST by Leep (It's.. (W)all or nothing..!)
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To: karpov

Let us start with a 200% tax on
1. Movie and TV production and sales
2. Music production and sales
3. Print news and magazines hardcopy sales
4. Google Ad Revenue by 10,000%
5. Facebook Ad Revenue by 10,000%
6. YouTube Ad Revenue by 10,000%
7. All of AMAZON items that are NOT made in the USA by 200%

Let us stimulate the economy by sharing all of the liberal wealth first.
Along with that we should remove any and all tax breaks for wind, solar or battery, and all tax breaks for Electric Cars, and any tax breaks for Amazon, Google, and Facebook. After all, they should pay their fair share right?


35 posted on 12/09/2019 11:14:01 AM PST by King_Corey (Buy American - https://madeinamericastore.com/)
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To: karpov

That is because democrats are dishonest as well as stupid.


36 posted on 12/09/2019 11:15:04 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: karpov

Remember how all the tax increases helped the economy before? OH WAIT THEY DIDN’T

It was only Trump’s tax cuts and Reagan’s tax cuts that lit the economy on fire!

This is essential proof of OVER-TAXATION.

There was an analysis done by Laffer who showed this with a graph of revenue-vs-taxes.

It was pure common sense, so of course the liberals couldn’t understand it and mocked the ‘Laffer Curve’ by calling it the “Giggle Wiggle”.


37 posted on 12/09/2019 11:15:26 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: karpov

I guess Warren hasn’t noticed all the people leaving high tax states for lower tax states.
Guess she missed that one.


38 posted on 12/09/2019 11:17:40 AM PST by Texas resident (Democrats=Enemy of People of The United States of America)
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To: karpov

The gov’t expenditures multiplier is always smaller than the private sector multiplier. If MPC is the Marginal Propensity to Consume (e.g., .8), then

Multiplier_gov = MPC / (1 - MPC) = .8 / .2 = 4

Mutliplier_pri = 1 / (i - MPC) = 1 / .2 = 5

Pubic expenditures grow the economy at a rate that is one less than the private spending multiplier will.


39 posted on 12/09/2019 11:18:00 AM PST by econjack
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To: karpov
Oh great. Same sh!t,different election year. The more money the government takes from me the better off I am. I hate Democrats.
40 posted on 12/09/2019 11:19:31 AM PST by 4yearlurker (A big mouth doesn't make a big man.~John Wayne)
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