Posted on 12/19/2019 9:15:42 PM PST by SeekAndFind
I see what you did there. LOL.
No the articles have to be delivered to the Senate for him to be impeached. It’s like any piece of legislation, if it doesn’t come out of the representative body (i.e., it isn’t “passed” but instead is “held”) it is considered dead.
You are right about what the constitution says. However, my understanding is that the senate has approved rules on impeachment that they have to follow, or vote to change. Part of those rules, require receiving transmittal of formal impeachment charges from the house. And secondly, require the house to have appointed managers to prosecute the case.
The senate can change those rules, like Pelosi did at the beginning of 2019 regarding impeachment in the house. I have read conflicting information on whether the senate needs 51 or 67 votes to change the rules.
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Some of the criticism I’ve heard raises more questions:
If the House of Representatives is 1/2 of Congress (and the “lower” chamber at that), how can there be “Obstruction of Congress”? In the President’s defense, he can negate Congressional Obstruction by cooperating with the other chamber. It would seem that the charge would be “Obstruction of the House of Representatives”, and that the Obstruction charge passed would require defiance of both chambers to constitute “Congress”.
Second, it has been said that by the actions of this House, that Presidents serve only at the pleasure of the House, as constituted, at any given time. By her acts to withhold the transfer of charges as passed by a majority of the House to the Senate, the Speaker has positioned herself as the sole arbiter of whether or not a President can maintain his office. Her actions seem Tyrannical on their face, and precisely what the framers wanted to avoid.
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This guy from Harvard who wrote this article was one of the three Dem expert witnesses. The younger guy.
Actually, he’s Class of 98.
Two can play this game. Impeachment doesn't happen until Pelosi transfers them? Then it doesn't happen until the Senate accepts them, because in neither case can it be said they were delivered.,
It makes perfect sense. It is a process and if the house doesn’t want to complete the process they are saying that they are stopping the process.
In 1993 there was an impeachment of a judge and it was only a committee who held the hearing and reported out to the Senate for a vote. The judge sued and lost at SCOTUS because the Senate can hold the impeachment trial in the manner it chooses.
Hmmmm We always called that , lost your place.
I still believe the scorned wench known as Nasty Pelousy vowed revenge when Trump embarrassed her in front her family and subordinates during the long government shutdown by cancelling their all expenses paid military flight to far away countries during the Christmas holidays.
He was right to do it but she will never get over her butthurt over it. Too bad so sad for her. Grow up beyotch and do your job or go away.
All the dems in the House have proven is they are unfit to govern a playground which is where juveniles like them are normally found.
Yes this is true the Senate can conduct the trial as it choses and even without all members present in the chamber. Those attending must convict with a 2/3 vote. The only constitutional rule for the trial is that the Chief justice must preside. Mitch sets the agenda for the Senate.
For impeaching the President the Chief Justice must preside over the Senate trial.
You lose your place, too?
BTW - never heard the phrase "lost your place" on FR.
I've seen your nick before. Don't have a negative or positive reaction.
I'm one of The Old Ones, just so you know. And I know how to find out stuff quickly about FR user assertions. ;-)
If someone is indicted and the prosecution never goes to court, then it counts for nothing.
I was referring to playing games growing up, you do your thing and I will do mine and we will all answer to Jim
So I went and looked that up.
The part about Janet Reno freaked me out.
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