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To: ETCM
Don't blame W. It was Zero-bama who pulled out all of our troops from a reasonably pacified Iraq. We lost our influence then...and Zero-bama ignored the brewing ISIS Crisis. Then, moronically/ ironically, Obama got us back into Iraq.

And, let's also not forget Valerie "Rasputin" Jarrett and the massive butt-kissing by Obama's team towards Iran.

12 posted on 12/31/2019 10:54:10 PM PST by Lysandru
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To: Lysandru

Baloney. Toppling Saddam Hussein and promoting democracy in Iraq inevitably led to a Shi’ite government that would have much closer ties to Iran than to the U.S.


14 posted on 12/31/2019 10:58:56 PM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: Lysandru

It takes 50 years to stabilize a country. Not 10 or even 20.
Why do you think we’re still in Japan, South Korea and Germany?


40 posted on 01/01/2020 2:41:45 AM PST by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election.)
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To: Lysandru
And, let's also not forget Valerie "Rasputin" Jarrett and the massive butt-kissing by Obama's team towards Iran.

And, let's also not forget Iranian born Valerie "Rasputin" Jarrett and the massive butt-kissing by Obama's team towards Iran.

50 posted on 01/01/2020 4:10:39 AM PST by null and void (The government wants to disarm us after 243 yrs 'cuz they plan to do things we would shoot them for!)
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To: Lysandru
There is a "Frontline" you need to watch called "The Secret History of ISIS" on YouTube. It will dispell a lot of this "It's all Obama's fault stuff. Is some of it his fault? YEP. But MOST of it is BUSH/CHENEY who had an opportunity to stop the forerunner of ISIS back in 2002 and didn't - because they wanted an excuse to go into Iraq....and then proceeded to LIE their butts off in front of the UN.

You can actually WATCH Colin Powell lie to the camera on this documentary...saying he can't recall certain things he said to the UN dozens of times. It's embarrassing.

Do yourself a favor...and if you don't come away with a clear understanding that without Bush there never would have been an ISIS - well - all I can say is we didn't watch the same documentary.

105 posted on 01/01/2020 12:45:23 PM PST by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog s<how. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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