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"You wouldn't think you'd go to jail over medical bills": County in rural Kansas is jailing people over unpaid medical debt
CBS News ^ | February 9, 2020 | Staff

Posted on 02/10/2020 10:21:51 AM PST by C19fan

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To: jdietz

My son has terminal brain cancer and is on an experimental drug that costs one thousand dollars per day. He used to be on Imbruvica which was only about twelve thousand a month.

It’s nuts.


41 posted on 02/10/2020 10:43:24 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: C19fan

Most of the time you can both negotiate a lower fee and a very flexible payment schedule. My uncle refused to buy health insurance, suffered a heart attack at age 58. Bill was over $200,000...he got the bill down to around $100,000 and worked out an interest free payment schedule of a 200 a month and the hospital was happy. I don’t buy these BS stories.


42 posted on 02/10/2020 10:43:59 AM PST by LumberJack53213
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To: Bob434

Si Senor!

Just fill out this form and welcome to America.


43 posted on 02/10/2020 10:44:28 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Our president is now serving Democrats the hemlock tea, they ordered up with a smile!)
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To: C19fan
The lawyer is using the courts to harass people to collect a debt.

Absolutely!! The bail money is not returned to the debtor, it is used to pay Hassenplug and the medical facility. Shakespeare was right.

I don't know what the answer is, but I know this isn't right.

I'm with the ACLU on this one, blind pig, acorn, etc.

44 posted on 02/10/2020 10:49:36 AM PST by LSAggie
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To: Mariner

And presstitutes count on most consumers not reading much beyond the headlines.


45 posted on 02/10/2020 10:51:30 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: rednesss

The article said the lawyers are requiring them to appear every 3 months and prove their income. Requiring someone to go to Court 4 times a year is ridiculous.


46 posted on 02/10/2020 10:52:56 AM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: C19fan

Absolutely misleading headline...

He went to jail for failure to appear before the court....

Doesn’t matter what the case is about, this is a real possibility for any case against you.


47 posted on 02/10/2020 10:54:42 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: shelterguy

That IS nuts! Prayers for your son that the treatment works. I feel awful for him and you. I experienced that horrible disease with my father who had a glioblastoma.


48 posted on 02/10/2020 10:55:59 AM PST by mplsconservative
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To: rusty schucklefurd

“neither party seems willing to do is allow across state line medical insurance”

Do you expect a New York State Blue Cross to get better Florida hospital pricing than Florida Blue Cross?

If you want Utah rate health insurance move to Utah.


49 posted on 02/10/2020 11:03:15 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: rednesss

Unless your name is Hunter Biden.


50 posted on 02/10/2020 11:04:29 AM PST by Dartoid
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To: C19fan
No, he was jailed for failure to appear.

He missed 2 appearances to plead poverty.

Hospitas have generous income based charity care.

They'll set up a payment plan based on your income even if it's $1 a month.

Why aren't the kids on CHIPS?

51 posted on 02/10/2020 11:08:51 AM PST by Eagles6
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

It’s not a debtors prison but for consumer debts like this it’s an academic distinction. Usually the people going to jail for contempt are rich people hiding assets who refuse to tell creditors where their assets are or pay debts.


52 posted on 02/10/2020 11:09:25 AM PST by socalgop
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To: LumberJack53213

“Most of the time you can both negotiate a lower fee and a very flexible payment schedule. My uncle refused to buy health insurance, suffered a heart attack at age 58. Bill was over $200,000...he got the bill down to around $100,000 and worked out an interest free payment schedule of a 200 a month and the hospital was happy. I don’t buy these BS stories.”

One of our younger relatives is an exec with a major company. They had great insurance until Obama/Pelosi/Roberts passed their $crew working Americans and raised their deductibles to basically impossible levels.

He, his wife and his college kids are in basically good health, and they go to walkin clinics for most if not all of their health care costs.

He or his wife pay cash for what is done in the office at significant reduced charges for cash. They negotiate with the clinics on the prices and the pharmacies and even labwork. One of their daughters is junior in a college back east. The college requires vaccinations and lab work every year. The costs from that college’s clinic and lab are several hundred $’s per year. Their daughter is on a danceteam and the EKG test back there was about $300. The local clinic did the whole package for $125/Cash. They saved close to $500 by negotiating and paying cash.

Their mother negotiated a package deal with a local clinic and a nation wide clinical lab for less than $150.

In spite of having a fairly good retirement rx program, I negotiated a deal with a couple of chain pharmacies got excellent deals on 2 high priced RX drugs. My wife did the same with her arthritis meds and a cardiac drug.


53 posted on 02/10/2020 11:10:01 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Our president is now serving Democrats the hemlock tea, they ordered up with a smile!)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux
You can take the debtor’s watch off his wrist, empty his wallet, and drive home in his car while he goes home on the bus.

Eh, really? Doesn't it depend on the type of debt? And if someone had declared bankruptcy, wouldn't that process be superior to a state OEX?

54 posted on 02/10/2020 11:15:58 AM PST by Fury
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To: C19fan; All
The states need to start protecting their respective citizens from post-17th Amendment ratification federal government overreach imo, constitutionally indefensible, vote-winning federal domestic healthcare policy in this example, before the states put people in jail for unpaid medical bills.

More specifically, the states need to put a stop to unconstitutional 16th Amendment taxes, taxes that corrupt Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers, such powers not including taxing and spending for INTRAstate healthcare purposes.

Citizens need to elect new patriot state and federal lawmakers that will promise to support PDJT in stopping the feds from stealing state revenues and citizen’s wallets with unconstitutional federal taxes. Citizens would then probably find the extra money to pay their healthcare expenses imo.

Remember in November!

MAGA! Now KAGA! (Keep America Great Always!)


55 posted on 02/10/2020 11:29:03 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Bob434

One of the problems I have with these type of stories is the lack of details about what is actually going on.


56 posted on 02/10/2020 11:30:59 AM PST by EVO X
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To: shelterguy
My son has terminal brain cancer ...

Please accept my sincere sympathy ... I wish I had something more helpful to say at this terrible time for your family. Take care.

57 posted on 02/10/2020 11:31:28 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: C19fan

Anyone who thinks these tactics are ok... is a sociopath/psychopath.


58 posted on 02/10/2020 11:33:38 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Zathras
In Rochester, MN the biggest employer is debt collection for the Mayo Clinic.

They nailed me for my son's MRI.

59 posted on 02/10/2020 11:34:25 AM PST by toast
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To: Bob434

Bingo. You got it.


60 posted on 02/10/2020 11:34:40 AM PST by plain talk
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