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An article Democrats Prefer ‘Reforming’ the Criminal-Justice System to Punishing Criminals says, "Pete Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders propose to reduce by 50 percent the number of people incarcerated in the United States at both the federal and state level. This would be quite the lift. If by “incarcerated” they mean every prison (as opposed to jail) inmate, they would have to persuade the states (responsible for 88 percent of 1.5 million prisoners) to reduce the sentences for some very serious crimes, eliminate mandatory minimum sentences, and maybe even sharply curtail the use of recidivism as a sentencing criterion."

So we'd have to release people like Madoff. No!

1 posted on 02/17/2020 8:05:52 AM PST by karpov
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To: karpov

Has anybody asked the victims?


2 posted on 02/17/2020 8:09:21 AM PST by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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We could release everyone over 55 and still be safer. Violent crime is by and large the province of young men.

How many senior citizen bank robbers are there? I rest my case.


3 posted on 02/17/2020 8:09:34 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Let Bernie stay!


4 posted on 02/17/2020 8:09:45 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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“So we’d have to release people like Madoff. No!”

So, we let FBI liars walk and Trump supporters get a life sentence for the same crime. Is this an upside-down world or what?

Let Madoff out. He’ll fit in just perfect with the NYC crowd.


5 posted on 02/17/2020 8:13:30 AM PST by icclearly
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It’s cute that this author thinks the Democrats are motivated by some notion of fairness or the rule of law, so that convicts like Madoff “must” be released as part of any criminal justice reform. We see what all that concern about prosecutorial abuse, the rights of the accused, and “restorative justice” is worth when the accused is someone like the Duke Lacrosse players, George Zimmerman, or Roger Stone.

This view is perfectly consistent. Criminal justice reform, for them, has nothing to do with fairness, actual justice, or even good policy. Both “reform” and the justice system itself is a weapon to be used against the left’s enemies, “white supremacists,” the “patriarchy,” and “capitalists.”


7 posted on 02/17/2020 8:15:19 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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This “worst of the worst” argument, for example, has long undergirded the death penalty, which still stands in 30 states despite its racial and class biases and other flaws that have led hundreds of innocent people to death row.

Crazy people should not be allowed to write editorials!
9 posted on 02/17/2020 8:17:08 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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Except Roger Stone and General Flynn.


11 posted on 02/17/2020 8:18:55 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If you don't recognize that as sarcasm you are dumber than a bag of hammers.)
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The FBI has stats on recidivism by age and race. An old fart in prison for a white collar crime usually learns his lesson. The youngsters don’t. You can read daily where New York or Los Angeles with their liberal release policies arrest the same people over and over. The CBP is probably the best source.


14 posted on 02/17/2020 8:23:34 AM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Also LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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Emptying the prisons is a really bad idea.

There are very good reasons to keep people incarcerated.


16 posted on 02/17/2020 8:27:31 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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How many people committed suicide because Madoff stole their life savings? IMO he’s a serial killer.


22 posted on 02/17/2020 8:40:57 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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Umm, no.


23 posted on 02/17/2020 8:41:51 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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How about Blago.


24 posted on 02/17/2020 8:43:30 AM PST by suekas
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How about Blago.


25 posted on 02/17/2020 8:43:30 AM PST by suekas
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“Mass incarceration” is lie. “Masses” aren’t locked up in this country, “individuals” are locked up based on the common trait of criminality. I think this is cynical progressive posturing, a ploy to create a new problem that they can run for office on.


29 posted on 02/17/2020 8:49:41 AM PST by Churchjack
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I’m all for kicking cons out that are sucking their dying breaths getting free medical treatment in our prisons, just so they can finish out their sentences. Let’em out and let them die. Have them sign an agreement that in exchange for getting out early they waive their “right” to Medicare or Medicaid and also that they live with a family member


31 posted on 02/17/2020 8:55:22 AM PST by shotgun
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Those on the left who press for criminal justice reform,all prisons will be converted onto camp grounds for the homeless and say say we do care for the people.


35 posted on 02/17/2020 9:07:20 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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If The Slimes announces support for releasing "unsympathetic" prisoners like "white supremacists" I might come to support Bernie's release.

Until then they can kiss the back of my lap.

36 posted on 02/17/2020 9:22:56 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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