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US Attacks Iran-Backed Militia Hours After General Refers to US Fatalities as 'Red Line'
cnsnews.com ^ | | March 13, 2020 | 4:39am EDT | By Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 03/13/2020 6:40:04 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Starboard

It goes something like this:

“There’s no such thing as a fair fight.” But we’re supposed to be measured, because they’re the underdog?

Trump, has identified 51 targets. Are these from the group?

If so, why not just tell them, 6 down, and 45 to go.


21 posted on 03/13/2020 7:45:19 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Red Badger

Not enough!!!! The air strikes should have been followed up by special force teams completely destroying each of the militias. As long as those militias are allowed to exist we can expect American deaths. Be proactive, not reactive. No one has ever won a war playing defense all the time.


22 posted on 03/13/2020 7:54:41 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: elpadre

They want to live in the 7th century, MAKE THEM LIVE IN THE 7th CENTURY!..........................


23 posted on 03/13/2020 7:55:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (If people were to God like dogs are to people, the world would be a really great place..............)
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To: nikos1121

But we’re supposed to be measured, because they’re the underdog?

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Good point.

An attack is an attack regardless of who it comes from. If we want to ‘discourage’ such actions we have to respond with whatever action is necessary to convince the attacker to NEVER do it again. Because we are a superpower there seems to be a supposition that we should be restrained in how we deal with lesser countries. But that is a fallacy that only invites further aggression.

Talking about things like red lines, measured responses, and proportionality only reinforces the notion that we are reluctant to protect our interests. In fact, talk is perceived as weakness and indecisiveness in many cultures. We need to show resolve or we will continually be on the receiving end of costly acts in terms of lives and our national credibility.


24 posted on 03/13/2020 7:58:43 AM PDT by Starboard (has so far)
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To: nikos1121

But we’re supposed to be measured, because they’re the underdog?

*************

Good point.

An attack is an attack regardless of who it comes from. If we want to ‘discourage’ such actions we have to respond with whatever action is necessary to convince the attacker to NEVER do it again. Because we are a superpower there seems to be a supposition that we should be restrained in how we deal with lesser countries. But that is a fallacy that only invites further aggression.

Talking about things like red lines, measured responses, and proportionality only reinforces the notion that we are reluctant to protect our interests. In fact, talk is perceived as weakness and indecisiveness in many cultures. We need to show resolve or we will continually be on the receiving end of costly acts in terms of lives and our national credibility.


25 posted on 03/13/2020 7:58:43 AM PDT by Starboard (has so far)
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To: dfwgator

The “nothing to lose” scenario is the scary part.


26 posted on 03/13/2020 8:07:01 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: rrrod

Especially if they believe it will bring the “12th Imam”


27 posted on 03/13/2020 8:08:57 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Red Badger

I am a Korean war combat veteran. Once we had our forces in Korea, and with an excellent South Korean army (ROK), we could have easily driven the the NK and Chinese forces off the entire peninsula. But this was a UN operation and they didn’t want to go beyond the 38th Parallel because it might cause problems with China and Russia. The 38th was established after WWII when the winners divided up the spoils. But NK and ChiComs wanted to push the line back to Pusan. They kept attacking, over and over, and we could only push back to the 38th. Even the day before a ceasefire was signed, they attacked. We took heavy, heavy casualties paying defense. We should never take on a defensive war!!


28 posted on 03/13/2020 8:15:15 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: dfwgator; SkyPilot; Roman_War_Criminal

[With the Coronavirus there and the falling oil prices threatening to destroy their economy, the Iranians may reach the point where they have “nothing to lose”.]

Once the mullahs have their nuclear weapon ready to go, I would expect Ezekiel 38 will follow shortly afterwards.

Time will tell.

One thing is for certain, the mullahs will keep going until they get some sort of mini-Armageddon.


29 posted on 03/13/2020 8:44:48 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: dfwgator
[Especially if they believe it will bring the “12th Imam”]


30 posted on 03/13/2020 8:46:47 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Red Badger
“These strikes were defensive, proportional, and in direct response to the threat posed by Iranian-backed Shia militia groups

Try 10x or 20x beyond proportional if you expect to deter them.

31 posted on 03/13/2020 8:46:58 AM PDT by libertylover (Socialism will always look good to those who think they can get something for nothing.)
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To: Starboard

its coming the longer we wait the stronger they are


32 posted on 03/13/2020 8:47:53 AM PDT by aces (and)
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To: bert

That’s just it. A “measured” response is for minor differences of opinion. These people want the free world DEAD. I have heard and repeated that to win a war, you:

Kill them.

Kill their wives, their children, their animals, and flatten every structure they have.

Then you kill them until they beg for mercy.

Then you start making the rubble you created bounce.

Then you kill them some more until YOU decide they have had enough.

Then you make them pay for the destruction they forced you to rain down upon their heads.

There is a reason the name Ghenghis Khan is still feared to this day in the Euro-Asian sphere.

The moon-worshippers need a little reminder of their true place on the hierarchy of civilization.


33 posted on 03/13/2020 9:31:23 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Red Badger

Coronavirus, falling oil prices, Iran may have reached the point where they have nothing to lose.


34 posted on 03/13/2020 9:32:40 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: aces

.....“The United States will not tolerate attacks against our people, our interests, or our allies,” said Defense Secretary Mark Esper after the strikes.

...boy, now THAT will put the fear of Allah into these
guys...!!! just one question: why in hell are we still
there....?? we have lost thousands of fine American
servicemember’s lives in this s**thole and the other one,
Afghananistan, and for what...?? Bring ‘em home, now....!!


35 posted on 03/13/2020 10:07:58 AM PDT by TokarevM57
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To: shotgun
And then sent in teams to grab all of their toilet paper.../s

I'll let them keep their hands.
36 posted on 03/13/2020 10:11:51 AM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: Don W

The Bible has things to say about such


37 posted on 03/13/2020 11:37:41 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: M-cubed

Actually, the president has in effect bombed them into economic destruction with devastating sanctions. His sanctions have been much more harmful than the 8th air force bombs.

Last week the Hezbollah surrogate allowed Lebanon to default on bonds. Iran has ceased funding Hezbollah and Lebanon defaulted. The trump actions are squeezing Iran to death with no kinetic physical action

The Iranian attack on the Aramco facilities at Abquiq were this week followed by Saudi Aramco increasing oil out put that reduced crude prices. Iran production is already very seriously impaired. What existing little iranian oil revenue remained is now diminished.

Iran cannot attack us except through surrogates. The Iraqi surrogates were counter attacked and seriously injured. But Iran continues to wither on the vine, to economically die


38 posted on 03/13/2020 1:03:53 PM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: TokarevM57

lol


39 posted on 03/13/2020 3:18:00 PM PDT by aces (and)
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To: TokarevM57

Either bring our men and women home or authorize them to kill every raghead (men, women, children, livestock) within a 5000 mile radius of where they are stationed.

Flatten their cities, poison their wells and salt their ground, burn all their crops, kill all their cattle.

They want to live like 7th century barbarians, make them live like stone age barbarians, nothing but flaked stone tools and clubs.


40 posted on 03/13/2020 3:52:50 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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