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Sorry, conspiracy theorists. Study concludes COVID-19 'is not a laboratory construct'
Yahoo News/GMA ^ | 3/27/20 | Kate Holland

Posted on 03/27/2020 8:42:51 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue

Conspiracy theories claiming COVID-19 was engineered in a lab as part of a biological attack on the United States have been gaining traction online in recent weeks, but a new study on the origins of the virus has concluded that the pandemic-causing strain developed naturally.

An analysis of the evidence, according to the findings first published in the scientific journal Nature Medicine, shows that the novel coronavirus "is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus," with the researchers concluding "we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible."

Researchers concluded that the novel coronavirus is not a human creation because it does not share any "previously used virus backbone." It likely arose, the study said, from a recombination of a virus found in bats and another virus, possibly originating from pangolins, otherwise known as scaly anteaters.

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To: TangledUpInBlue
I'll see your "study" and raise with an actual, guaranteed not to be photoshop, proof of the origin...

china
21 posted on 03/27/2020 9:00:00 AM PDT by reintarnation (not a noob, i just change my identity over the years...)
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Top Reasons To Believe the Wuhan Virology Lab Caused 2019-nCoV

The Outbreak Started Across The Street From A Virology Lab

[1] The official story is that 2019-nCoV started in a seafood market in Wuhan. Unclean animals sold there were carrying the virus, Chinese scientists have suggested, and, as a result, some unlucky shoppers ended up becoming patient zeros for a global crisis.You’ve probably already heard that explanation before, and there’s a good chance you’ve accepted it as a fact — but there are some glaring problems with it.For one thing, the first patients with 2019-nCoV have no connection to the market whatsoever. They lived nearby, and they appear to have spread the disease to people who went there —

The real patient zeros never actually stepped foot inside of the market.

[2]Also, 2019-nCoV is believed to have originated in bats — and this was a seafood market. Nobody was selling bats inside of this market. Bats just aren’t something people in Wuhan normally eat.

[3]Even China’s scientists have started backing away from this theory. To quote one directly:“It seems clear that [the] seafood market is not the only origin of the virus…

But to be honest, we still do not know where the virus came from.”

[4]A lot of people have pointed to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is just a 30 minutes drive for the seafood market. But if that’s not close enough for you, there’s another lab that researches bat coronaviruses that’s even closer:

The Wuhan Center for Disease Control & Prevention.It’s not just on the other side of town. It’s on the other side of the street.

[5]The Wuhan Virology Lab Was Studying Bat Coronaviruses:
The Wuhan Center for Disease Control & Prevention isn’t just an administrative office. Scientists were inside that building actively conducting research — including studies on coronaviruses in bats.

[6]A lot of researchers in Wuhan were. It had been a major project for the city, and the Wuhan Institute of Virology took great pride in.

They were at the forefront in researching the causes of SARS, and it was their researchers who had proven that the last SARS outbreak originated in bats.

[7]They had to look at an awful lot of sick bats to do it, though. Researchers had been gathering bats infected with the coronavirus since at least 2012, and they were focusing on ones that could spread their illness to human beings.

[8]There were hundreds of bats in Wuhan’s labs when the 2019-nCoV outbreak started, and the researchers there were studying at least 11 new strains of SARS-related viruses in them.

[9] And, yes — they were doing it across the street from the place where the outbreak started.

82019-nCoV Is a 96% Match For A Bat Virus In The Wuhan Virology Lab
The coronavirus that’s spreading around the world at this very moment has been called “novel” because it’s unique. It’s different from past diseases, like SARS. About 30% different, to be exact.That’s not just a number we pulled out of our heads. Scientists have compared the genetic sequence of SARS to 2019-nCoV, and they’ve found that they’re about 70% similar.

[10]That’s a rough number — the real one might be a bit higher. But the real number probably isn’t 96% — which is the percentage match scientists have found between 2019-nCov and a form of the coronavirus carried by bats inside of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

[11]“But wait a minute,” you say. “If those bats had the virus, there were probably bats all around Wuhan that had it — right?”Afraid not. 2019-nCoV isn’t just similar to bat coronaviruses in general — it’s similar to a very specific strain of bat coronavirus carried by bats in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Not every bat coronavirus has that 96% match — in fact, when another lab compared 2019-nCoV to their own bats, the closest match they could find was 88%.

[12]And those bats weren’t local. If you were living in Wuhan and you really wanted to find one of those bats, you’d either have to go to the virology lab or to the place those bats had come from: Yunnan and Zhejiang.That’s a little over 900km away.

[13]7An Infected Bat Bled On A Researcher Shortly Before The Outbreak

Ok, so a disease lab was researching diseases. So what? That doesn’t prove that it ever got out — right?

While it’s highly unlikely that the Wuhan Institute of Virology deliberately plagued its own people, it really wouldn’t have been that hard for somebody to catch it by accident.Imagine if a bat attacked a researcher and, in the chaos, spilled its blood onto his bare skin. Or imagine if he got a bit too close and got bat urine on his body. Or imagine both of those things happened to the same person not long before the 2019-nCoV outbreak began.That’s exactly what happened.

According to a report by Chinese researchers Botao and Lei Xiao,

[14] A researcher named Junhua Tian described these exact experiences in an interview with the Changjiang Times.Junhua Tian claims he quarantined himself to keep from spreading these disease — but even if he and his colleagues used every possible precaution, it’s possible that the virus still could have leaked out.One thing we’ve learned since the outbreak is that people can show no symptoms at all and still be infected. And, according to a recent study out of Japan, people who have recovered can still carry the virus

[15] SARS Escaped From A Beijing Lab Twice
Of course, it’s also possible that the staff at the Wuhan Institute of Virology just didn’t use every possible precaution.It wouldn’t be the first time someone’s walked out of a Chinese virology lab carrying a deadly sickness. It’s happened before — in fact, it once happened twice in a single month.

[16]On April 4, 2004, a postgraduate student working at a virology lab in Beijing was diagnosed with SARS. She had gotten infected while researching the virus, and, unaware that she was sick, walked out into the public and very nearly caused a second outbreak.That’s pretty bad — but what makes it downright terrifying is that, two weeks later, another postgraduate student working at the exact same lab did the exact same thing.

That’s not just negligent. According to scientist Antoine Danchin, it should technically be impossible.“Normally, it’s not possible to contaminate people even under level two confinement if the security rules are obeyed,” he said after the incident. “It suggests there has been some mishandling of something.“The lab might have all the right rules, but the people may not comply.”TOP 10 CREEPY THINGS HAPPENING INSIDE CHINA5The Wuhan Virology Lab Was

Testing A Virus That Matches 2019-nCoV
In case there was any doubt, the Wuhan Institute of Virology definitely had postgraduate students on staff.We can confirm that because, on Nov. 18, 2019, shortly before the breakout, the institute put up a job posting

[17] Asking for postgraduate students to help study the coronavirus in humans and bats.That’s not exactly out of the ordinary — but the description in the job posting is a little disturbing. It says that they were particularly interested in molecular mechanisms that let coronavirus lie dormant for a long time without symptoms.Sound familiar? That’s one of the distinguishing traits of 2019-nCoV — the fact that people can go around without any apparent symptoms and still spread it.322 of the people on the Diamond Princess cruise ship tested positive without symptoms,

[18] and there’s proof that those asymptomatic people can spread the disease. In fact, one woman is confirmed to have spread it at least five people without showing any symptoms of her own

[19] 4 Researchers At The Lab Had Recently Created A New Coronavirus
The staff at Wuhan Institute of Virology didn’t just work on cures. They also spent some developing new, super viruses of their own.In 2015, two researchers at the Institute participated in an international experiment led by American scientist Ralph Baric.

[20] The goal? Create a new coronavirus with the ability to infect human beings.If that sounds like a weird goal to you, you’re not alone. A significant part of the scientific community was outraged by this experiment.“The only impact of this work is the creation, in a lab, of a new, non-natural risk,” biologist Richard Ebright protested when the work came out.

[21]French virologist Simon Wain-Hobson agreed. “If the virus escaped,” he warned,

[22] “nobody could predict the trajectory.”32019-nCoV Has Eerie Similarities to HIV

According to a controversial study out of India, some aspects of 2019-nCoV have “uncanny similarities” to HIV.

[23]Full disclosure — this study’s gotten a fair degree of scrutiny. Some scientists have questioned whether it used enough data to be statistically significant, and they’ve put it through the wringer enough that, at this point, the study’s authors have withdrawn their work.

[24]But while their work might be unproven, that doesn’t necessarily make it wrong — and there’s a little bit of evidence to back it up. HIV drugs are proving to be remarkably effective in treating the drug,

[25] and most patients are showing low white blood cell counts.

[26] — something that doesn’t happen with any other form of coronavirus.

[27]That’s creepy — because researchers in the Wuhan Institute of Virology have worked on or conducted studies combining SARS-CoV and an HIV pseudovirus in bats and humans.

[28]There’s no hard proof that the 2019-nCoV is a man-made virus — but if scientists ever find proof that it is, there’s a lot of reason to be worried.

The Communist Chinese Government Ordered Silence:
Infectious disease specialist Daniel Lucey got the chance to review the documents and data China had in its possession when 2019-nCoV broke out, and he came out of it baffled. Their official story, he said, just didn’t make any sense.“China must have realized the epidemic did not originate in that Wuhan Huanan seafood market,” Lucey told the press.

[29]Perhaps he was right. Perhaps somebody in Wuhan knew that the story didn’t add up even when they first announced it. But if they did, they were under strict orders not to say anything about it.On Jan. 2, 2020 — the day after the Huanan seafood market was blamed for the disease — the Wuhan Institute of Virology sent out a disclosure strictly “prohibiting disclosure of information” on 2019-nCoV.Some scientists have spoken up anyway. A good part of this article, for example, draws from a study by the National Natural Science Foundation of China called “The possible origins of 2019-nCoV coronavirus”.It might not surprise you to find out that, shortly after that study was released, the communist government did its best to pull it off the internet with as much vigor as they are using in attempting to stop people referring to the virus as a “Chinese virus” or as the “Wuhan flu”.

[30]1The Chinese Government Is Tightening Up Biolab Security.

The biggest smoking gun of them all came straight out of the mouth of President Xi Jinping.On Feb. 14, 2020, President Xi gave a speech on the need to contain 2019-nCoV. Chinese, he said, needs to “learn our lessons… so we can strengthen our areas of weakness and close the loopholes exposed by the epidemic.

[31]While Xi was never completely explicit about how those loopholes were to be closed, he did announce his plan to push through a new law for “biosecurity at laboratories” specifically targeting the use of biological agents that “may harm national security”.

The very next day, the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology followed up on Xi’s speech with a new directive entitled: “Instructions on strengthening biosecurity management in microbiology labs that handle advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus.”

[32]There’s only one microbiology lab in all of China that handles advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus. It’s the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

https://listverse.com/2020/03/20/top-10-reasons-to-believe-the-wuhan-virology-lab-caused-2019-ncov/

Thanks to ‘The Truth Will Make You Free’ for sending and posting the above data/link!

Thanks to Bon mots for the one page summary of the above and a cartoon summarizing this data.

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22 posted on 03/27/2020 9:00:25 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ((FearRepublic.com -WuhanDeathBros keeping media panic narrative going 24/7 to bring down Trump)!!!!)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Yahoo news LOL


23 posted on 03/27/2020 9:00:35 AM PDT by angcat (THANK YOU LORD FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!!!)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Sod off, Swampy.


24 posted on 03/27/2020 9:01:01 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

If it is a bioweapon, which I don’t believe, then it’s a pretty bad one. We’d be burning bodies in parking lots if it was the real McCoy.


25 posted on 03/27/2020 9:01:10 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: TangledUpInBlue

It’s from Yahoo and GMAABC. Why should we doubt the validity of this? We know Yahoo and ABC are impartial news gathering organizations!


26 posted on 03/27/2020 9:03:14 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Already been posted

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3828814/posts


27 posted on 03/27/2020 9:07:26 AM PDT by McGruff (It came from China)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Wonder how many of the peer-review editors for Nature receive
some overseas funding for their own laboratories?

In addition to what their university’s fund and Fed.gov funds?


28 posted on 03/27/2020 9:07:34 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: TangledUpInBlue; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
I wonder what the folks at USAMRIID think?

I'm guessing they think it's odd that a plain vanilla corona virus just happened to pick up both Ebola and HIV surface binding proteins in an area that has few AIDS patients, and absolutely NO Ebola.

But conspiracy theorists gotta theorize...

At no point in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason ~ nully's son

The biggest killer of mankind

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...


29 posted on 03/27/2020 9:09:45 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

We have a new propaganda screed in these last few days. It is geared to:

Steer blame from china

Downplay the risk and seriousness of the virus

Bring the nation back to work in spite of a now growing spread all across the nation

Other than these messages, nothing has changed.


30 posted on 03/27/2020 9:11:59 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: skimbell

It’s a cold Jim.


I mean, sure... if you mean in the morgue. If you mean like the common cold, that’s being naïve.


31 posted on 03/27/2020 9:12:04 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

So the pseudo scientists, who are so sure that this virus is not “engineered” but cannot say exactly how it mutated to it’s current form or from what source, would have us believe that the virus just coincidentally appeared in the same city that is the home of the Chicom’s biological warfare testing lab? Perhaps these same scientists can quote us the odds on the likelyhood of such a coincidence. It appears that this is an effort to tamp down criticism of the Chinese, at the very least, or to discredit those of us who demand a full accounting.


32 posted on 03/27/2020 9:13:34 AM PDT by vigilence (Vigilence)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

And I am going to put a tooth under my pillow tonight because I ‘believe’ in the “Tooth Fairy”!

They really do think that we are stupid, don’t they?


33 posted on 03/27/2020 9:13:59 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
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To: TangledUpInBlue
That study has been debunked: Debunking Nature Magazine's "COVID-19 Definitely Didn't Come From A Lab" China Propaganda
34 posted on 03/27/2020 9:16:01 AM PDT by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: rdcbn

I don’t think anything about the Wuhan Coronavirus *requires* engineering or purposeful manipulation. As such, it is a technical/political question, not really a pragmatic one.


35 posted on 03/27/2020 9:16:10 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

I’ll bet dollars to donuts that USAMRIID thinks that it is far more common for most world military Biochem programs to grow and experiment with naturally occurring pathogens than to bio-engineer them. The Soviets used natural selection methods to find virulent strains, and no doubt the ChiComs do the same.


36 posted on 03/27/2020 9:21:20 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Yeah I always believe Yahoo news. Not.


37 posted on 03/27/2020 9:23:24 AM PDT by Citizen Soldier
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To: SaxxonWoods
Not sure I see the conspiracy theory here.

Chinese lack of rule compliance, indifference to formal controls and casual corruption make them fundamentally unsafe dealing with deadly pathogens

The best and most logical explanation of where the Wuhan virus came from is that it escaped from the Wuhan Level 4 facility either by careless infection of a researcher or because lab research bats, a delicacy in china, were stolen from the facility and sold to black market food sellers in the market. Most likely by a person in the loop for disposing of test subject bats

By the way, Natures fundamental assumption for dismissing human engineering involvement in covid 19 is fundamentally flawed. There are plenty of ways to human engineer a virus that they do not exclude with their basic assumptions

Nor does it mean that the Chinese were necessarily trying to engineer a bio weapon, the virus could just as easily be a medical research tool or experimental project for basic virology research

China’s bizarre and otherwise inexplicable response to the outbreak tends to validate and reinforce suspicions that the virus was leaked from the Wuhan virology research center

38 posted on 03/27/2020 9:23:47 AM PDT by rdcbn ( Referentiail)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Just who the hell were these alleged researchers?I don’t believe in coincidences.

This virus spread to fast.Thanks to our communist friends.

The probability of having it come out of a bio warfare lab is just as great as it is coming from an
Animal.


39 posted on 03/27/2020 9:30:21 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
Conspiracy theory equals the truth.
40 posted on 03/27/2020 9:32:40 AM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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