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E/R doctor schools physicians on treating Covid-19 patients (excellent read)
citizenfreepress.com ^ | 3/29/20 | ER DOCTOR

Posted on 03/29/2020 4:18:02 AM PDT by Liz

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To: central_va

You said you are an engineer, then you must understand timelines.

Guess what? The outbreak didn’t kick off to a global starting gun at the same instant.

Wuhan: December-January.
Italy: January-February.
Spain: February-March
New York: March —>

And so on. Is this a difficult concept?


101 posted on 03/29/2020 5:43:55 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Why just yesterday YOU SAID until there are masks for everyone we should not reopen the country. You are limiting and taking away freedom. And these are YOUR words. You absolutely advocate freedom
Limitations pending the initiation of your misguided order.


102 posted on 03/29/2020 5:45:25 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: Liz

With all the hydroxychloroquine being stocked up I guess we will be ready for a malaria outbreak in the event of global warming (now climate change) and a mosquito horde ascends from the south... well you never know I guess lol


103 posted on 03/29/2020 5:45:29 AM PDT by Ymani Cricket (Pressure makes diamonds - General Patton)
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To: gas_dr

If he is using laminar flow the PEEP may be the highest pressure the lungs “see”. We used to get patients like this and in those days they just died.


104 posted on 03/29/2020 5:46:31 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: gas_dr

“Why just yesterday YOU SAID until there are masks for everyone we should not reopen the country.”

Got an actual quote?


105 posted on 03/29/2020 5:46:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Liz

ping


106 posted on 03/29/2020 5:47:23 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: bramps

saw that too


107 posted on 03/29/2020 5:47:29 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Travis McGee
My point is that isolating and caring for those most at risk doesn't require:


108 posted on 03/29/2020 5:47:35 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: central_va

If you recall, I was asked to make a prediction a week ago or so. Reluctantly I agreed. I said, “at some day around March 31 we will have 5,000 total deaths with about 2,000 occurring in the day previously. I may have missed by a day.


109 posted on 03/29/2020 5:48:37 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: gas_dr

Doc, have a look at Cytosorbents Co. Blood filtration cartridges (Hooks up to existing dialysis equip.) for your CV Sepsis / Cytokine Storm patients. “Compassionate use” protocol. Was / is being used in China and now Italy.


110 posted on 03/29/2020 5:48:41 AM PDT by DAC21 ( and Naflet had demint)
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To: wastoute

Salvage ventilation is accomplished via APRV now. If this guy were legit he would have stated as much. He holds himself out to be giving advice to medical professionals and then writes a lot of nonsensical stuff. You know you can tell when you are dealing with bullshit artists when they can’t weave something together. This is a regurgitation of a lot of things of which the vast majority of clinically incorrect


111 posted on 03/29/2020 5:50:41 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: Liz

This was posted several days ago on this board, and the link removed. Although very believably written, clearly in the language of an ER/Intensivist MD, it may be a hoax


112 posted on 03/29/2020 5:50:42 AM PDT by HangnJudge (Kipling was right about humanity)
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To: Travis McGee

The reason it looks like “log scale is because it is. I should have been whipped for not looking at the axes.


113 posted on 03/29/2020 5:51:52 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Liz; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
I think he said 5% critical condition, if that means on a ventilator, 70-86% ventilated patients die. For New Orleans that's 3.5% fatalities, rest of the world 4.25%.

Yow.

Comments anyone?

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

The false positive rate was 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's or one old fart’s life, it's worth it.

114 posted on 03/29/2020 5:53:43 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: central_va

I spent years of my. Life managing patients in ICUs. No one is ever going to bulllshit me about what goes on in an ICU. Sure, it was so long ago I would be dangerous today but sick people are sick people. That doesn’t change.


115 posted on 03/29/2020 5:53:51 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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It seems this has to be said because of all the Fearbros here -

It’s the flu. Very virulent, very contagious and potentially deadly to about 10% who get it.

There’s no cure and, currently, no known treatment. Those are the important facts.

What we CANNOT do is stick our heads in the sand and lock ourselves in our homes for months, potentially years in response to outright hysteria.

We can act as rational and adult human beings, stay home when sick and avoid those who are susceptible and still soldier on.

Fear and hysteria is what they want. Watch their actions, not their words. They want the destruction of individual liberties, they want the destruction of capitalism and free thought.

Did China share its information with us when they had their outbreak? No. They buried it, AND THE PEOPLE, and claim -with their numbers- that they’ve “beaten the flu”. Meanwhile they order the WHO to not admit Taiwan and to get the flu name changed from “Wuhan flu” to COVID-19. Does this sound like a nation that thinks the flu will destroy them?

What’s the first thing Pelosi did to “save us”? Tried to pass a law to make ballot harvesting legal nationwide for THIS election. The same stunt they used to take over California, which is now, effectively, a one party state.
Does this sound like a political leader that thinks the flu will destroy the US?

Don’t lose your head. Be vigilant, wash your hands and don’t go out if you’re sick. Don’t give in to fearbros... that way leads to the dark side.


116 posted on 03/29/2020 5:54:48 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Skywise

With all due.... If you think the numbers are fake, part the real ones. Sources would be appreciated.


117 posted on 03/29/2020 5:55:06 AM PDT by Solson (Trump 2020!)
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To: central_va

If he lives in a rural location he would likely find what you do in your rural location. Be grateful. I live near a city that will soon have the hospital “melt down”. My neighbors are preparing for looters.


118 posted on 03/29/2020 5:55:21 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: gas_dr

He’s an ER doc, or claims to be. He may not manage vents. Tube ‘em and send ‘em up.


119 posted on 03/29/2020 5:56:07 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Skywise

I use a number of different sites and the current deaths in the United States are 2045. That’s from the COVID tracking site which links to reach and every state health report.


120 posted on 03/29/2020 5:56:57 AM PDT by Solson (Trump 2020!)
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