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Tucker confronts NJ gov over lockdown measures: 'I wasn't thinking of the Bill of Rights when we did this'
Fox News ^ | April 16, 2020 | Charles Creitz

Posted on 04/16/2020 9:41:07 AM PDT by bobsunshine

Tucker Carlson pressed Democratic New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy Wednesday on the scientific rationale and constitutional fitness of Murphy's executive measures in response to the coronavirus pandemic, which have essentially locked down most of the Garden State.

Murphy's orders have included the closure of all state parks and a ban on large gatherings. New Jersey had more than 71,000 confirmed coronavirus cases as of Wednesday night and 3,156 deaths, more than any other state except New York.

Host Tucker Carlson drew Murphy's attention to a widely publicized case in which 15 men were arrested for congregating at an Ocean County synagogue earlier this month, violating Murphy's ban on large gatherings and his stay-at-home order.

The Bill of Rights, as you well know, protects Americans' rights — enshrines their right to practice their religion as they see fit and to congregate together to assemble peacefully," Carlson said. "By what authority did you nullify the Bill of Rights in issuing this order? How do you have the power to do that?"

"That's above my pay grade, Tucker," Murphy responded. "I wasn't thinking of the Bill of Rights when we did this ... we looked at all the data and the science and it says people have to stay away from each other. That is the best thing we can do to break the back of the curve of this virus, that leads to lower hospitalization and ultimately fatalities."

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: murphy; newjersey; philmurphy; shutdown; snaggletooth; tucker; tuckercarlson
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To: bobsunshine

bkmk


21 posted on 04/16/2020 10:23:40 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Happens to the best on them.


22 posted on 04/16/2020 10:25:13 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Be strong & prosper, be weak & die! Stay true.... ~~ Donald J. Trump)
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To: brownsfan

Agree.. I think we’re devolving into city- states!


23 posted on 04/16/2020 10:28:25 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Dr. Ursus

“Agree.. I think we’re devolving into city- states!”

Remember that Russian political scientist who predicted the breakup of the United States? We all laughed, and mocked such a silly idea.

Maybe not so silly.


24 posted on 04/16/2020 10:32:51 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: bobsunshine; All
""That's above my pay grade, Tucker," Murphy responded."

You’re fired!

25 posted on 04/16/2020 10:58:59 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: bobsunshine
Carlson raised the case of a man who was cited for walking on a beach,

Or the case of the kid who was surfing (in the People's Sewer of Kommiefornia) and was arrested. And the ocean was empty. And the beach was deserted.

Stupid liberals all follow the same totalitarian playbook. In a crisis, go full Nazi!

26 posted on 04/16/2020 10:59:48 AM PDT by LouAvul ("Little by little, the look of the country changes because of the men we admire.")
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To: cgbg

Yes, but then comes along the 14th amendment, whereby:
“No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

But you are correct, the governor is an idiot but elected by Liberals - says it all. But remember, sheep will eventually bite you if they are starving.


27 posted on 04/16/2020 11:18:32 AM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: cgbg
If you want to see some bad news read this...

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/congress/item/34391-house-of-representatives-passes-usmca-integration-scheme

BTW. There is no irony in the fact the USMCA was sold to US on the premise it would be great for business and three months later our economy was dismantled in front of our eyes using a globalist hoax.

No irony at all. It was pure hatred from below. The politicians are merely complicit co-conspirators

28 posted on 04/16/2020 11:20:15 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman (when I want an intoxicant powerful enough to deceive a nation I only use corona)
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To: bobsunshine

NJ as a whole gives zero fvks. It is forever blue as of last ballot harvest election.


29 posted on 04/16/2020 11:22:47 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: cgbg
But, there is an argument to be made--he just did not know how to make it.

Perhaps, if the Supreme Court hadn't interpreted the Bill of Rights as applying to state governments as well for about a hundred years.

30 posted on 04/16/2020 11:23:00 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: bobsunshine

Further discussion on this topic:

https://blog.harvardlawreview.org/contagion-and-the-right-to-travel/

This is not a slam dunk on either side imho, but of course the NJ governor appeared totally unaware of the issues and the debate.


31 posted on 04/16/2020 11:28:10 AM PDT by cgbg (Pattern recognition is the first sign of intelligence.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I watched that last night and a)yes Tucker did a great job.

And b) one of the most remembered phrases of this whole mess would be that knowing the Bill of Rights “was out of my pay grade” and “I didn’t even think of the Bill of Rights when thinking this out.”

Tells you all we need to know about these elites and how little they think of us peons.

People, we must NEVER, not EVER, NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,

....allow gubmint to shut the economy downagain.

NEVER.


32 posted on 04/16/2020 11:38:59 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Bob434

Well I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for the FKN lawyers; most lawyers just consider the CONSTITUTION to be extra toilet paper.

As a great man once said “FIRST WE KILL ALL THE LAWYERS”, damn that would take out 99.8% of all democrat politicians.


33 posted on 04/16/2020 11:41:05 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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Bookmarking


34 posted on 04/16/2020 11:53:12 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: brownsfan

The Democrats don’t want an election in NOVEMBER and will the destroy the country to escape their TDS.if they can block churches they will block the polls too.


35 posted on 04/16/2020 12:00:30 PM PDT by cnsmom
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Meh. It’s not that Tucker did well. It’s that the governor didn’t really make an argument.

Example: Tucker repeated the claim that thousands of people die from influenza annually. The governor accepted that questionable claim and didn’t argue with him.

Example: Tucker said a man was arrested for sitting alone on the beach. The governor said he didn’t know the particulars of that story.

(Tucker is wrong. The man was cited, not arrested, and police often cite people caught on closed beaches.)

To be clear, NO state should be banning gatherings in the private sector, although states should issue strong guidelines and advisories.

But states have every right to control public parks and other publicly funded places.


36 posted on 04/16/2020 12:03:37 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Don Corleone
Featured snippet from the web "I, A.B., elected governor of the State of New Jersey, do solemnly promise and swear, that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey, and that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, and to the governments established in the United States and in this ...
37 posted on 04/16/2020 3:59:17 PM PDT by Don Corleone (The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
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