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New video in George Floyd case surfaces....
Insider ^ | May 27, 2020 | Rosie Perper

Posted on 05/27/2020 7:17:30 AM PDT by bort

"New video appears to show police forcing George Floyd out of his car moments before an officer knelt on his neck ...

(Excerpt) Read more at insider.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: again; deathbycop; epsteindidnteither; floyd; george; judgejury; murder; streetjustice
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To: mad_as_he$$

Here’s yet ANOTHER video.

He’s calmly talking to the now-ex-cops while cuffed.
Little did he know he had only a few agonizing minutes left to live.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/27/video-does-not-appear-to-show-george-floyd-resisting-arrest/


121 posted on 05/27/2020 3:28:36 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Respond Code Three

Hey look, another video. Full of VIOLENT DRUG-ADDLED FLAILING.

(Not)

https://nypost.com/2020/05/27/video-does-not-appear-to-show-george-floyd-resisting-arrest/


122 posted on 05/27/2020 3:29:23 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Respond Code Three
>>>The officer’s knee was at the bottom of the neck at the shoulder blades. Had the full force of the knee been on the neck it would have snapped his neck.

First - you are a liar or clueless. It is obvious his knee is on his kneck. Second - you are a liar or a clueless idiot. That would not "snap" a kneck. What -did you get that from a movie? lol. That is LAUGHABLE. You snap a kneck with a quick, sudden force - not crushing pressure.

It is obvious you are a retired cop - and that you were probably a CROOKED cop - that BROKE his oath to the constitution.

Did you ever write a traffic ticket for a citizen (enforcing the law) but let a cop go for the same violation - blue privilege? Did you ever let a cop go home (or drive him there) because he had a little too much to drink when you would have taken someone else to jail?

If you did that - then you VIOLATED your oath to uphold the law and the constitution - and thus you are CROOKED and your input here is WORTHLESS.

123 posted on 05/27/2020 4:36:25 PM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: walkingdead
Just listening to interview on Hannity who use to work in Secret Service, that is a move that should not be used to get the handcuffs on move according to the interview.

Keeping the pressure on the position of the neck cut off the blood supply to the brain.

Reading in another article a police officer explains they normally use the knee. The police officer should be put on trial for Murder.

"Answer to: Why do police put their knee on the back of your neck when cuffing you?
Why? Because they were poorly trained."

Some ex-police officer explaining training
Note I still saw no video of resistance.
124 posted on 05/27/2020 6:34:38 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: NELSON111

“First - you are a liar or clueless. It is obvious his knee is on his kneck.”

Give the man a break he has not see the other videos yet. Don’t be a very rude / hater.

No it is not obvious, the first video I saw it appear the knee was at the bottom of the neck at the shoulder blades. A second video from a different view, the knee appear to be on his neck. I am sure more videos will be appearing on the web. The officers did have body cams on, those will show more details.


125 posted on 05/27/2020 6:48:00 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: DEPcom
BS - If he has not seen them it is because he doesn't WANT to see them. It IS obvious.

Look at the still frame and if you see that - you are an idiot too.

126 posted on 05/27/2020 8:28:05 PM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: DEPcom
I am looking at a still frame RIGHT NOW...and the officers left knee - the left part of the left knee is sitting just below the right ear.

ANYONE who says that is a shoulder blade is a liar or a bootlicker or just doesn't want to admit the truth.

Or - you could just be blind.

127 posted on 05/27/2020 8:30:32 PM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: DEPcom
I am looking at a still frame RIGHT NOW...and the officers left knee - the left part of the left knee is sitting just below the right ear.

ANYONE who says that is a shoulder blade is a liar or a bootlicker or just doesn't want to admit the truth.

Or - you could just be blind.

128 posted on 05/27/2020 8:30:35 PM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: grey_whiskers

Interesting. Just saw it on Fox. Now someone needs titch all these videos together against the timeline.


129 posted on 05/28/2020 3:41:43 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: NELSON111

“Or - you could just be blind.”

Very surprise by your response with the hateful labeling (liar, bootlicker, idiot). Very unbecoming of professional.

I apologized if that statement triggers you but there are multiply videos with different angles. One of those videos has an illusion of the knee appearing at the base of the neck between the shoulder blade. This video is a short video out of context. I did not see the full videos showing the full context until later.

I am not a police officer, trained how to detain a person or a hater. I will give a formal police officer a pass if they think the knee is between the shoulder blade before calling them a liar or bootlicker. Maybe they have not seen the other full videos. There natural reaction is to defend a Brother in Arms. We still do not know all the facts yet.


130 posted on 05/28/2020 5:20:20 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: discostu
From the standpoint of someone wanting to keep their job, they can be compelled to give a statement to IA. And yes, like the black muslim cop who shot that white woman, someone can refuse to give a statement to IA, and that ends their job.

From the standpoint of gathering facts and statements, if the officers would have sat for IA interviews, it would have strengthened the hand of the prosecution. That opportunity is now lost. And a sloppy cop friendly IA interview would NOT have helped ANY of them in this case.

131 posted on 05/28/2020 6:17:19 AM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: DuncanWaring; grey_whiskers; NELSON111
The video I saw showed what I had previously written of. You can't accuse me of lying because you don't know what I saw.

I never wrote that the officer never put his knee on or near the neck of the detainee. The additional videos and still shots are an attempt to prove something I DIDN'T write.

132 posted on 05/28/2020 6:24:10 AM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: NELSON111
"your input here is WORTHLESS."

Your input is about the level of a middle school Karen with PMS.

133 posted on 05/28/2020 6:28:56 AM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: Respond Code Three

Then show us a still-shot or video demonstrating the officer’s knee on the guy’s shoulder blades, which you claim you saw.


134 posted on 05/28/2020 6:29:10 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Respond Code Three

Minneapolis’ previous murderous cop RESIGNED, nine months later, the day they issued his arrest warrant. Which shows you just how compelling IA actually is.

The prosecution doesn’t need their excuse mongering before IA to have a case. They’ve got the tape. The tape says they’re murderers. The only question now is will the prosecutor actually try to win the case, or will he try to protect his relationship with the rest of MPD.


135 posted on 05/28/2020 7:10:39 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: discostu
Unfortunately you are not thinking strategically like the prosecution. You are thinking emotionally, like a woman, so I'm going to have to mansplain this to you.

Let's do a reset.

The incident happens, and all four officers are put on leave. They are all given an opportunity to give a statement to IA. Very likely, the senior officer is going to decline on the advice of his attorney. But the other three officers might go ahead and go in for the interview. They want to keep their jobs.

The interviews are a freebee for the prosecution because it fixes their statement should they decide to take the stand. Their statement cannot be used against them, but it can be used for impeachment purposes should they decide to give a conflicting statement. It let's the prosecution tell the jury that one statement was given to IA and now the officer has given a conflicting statement. The jury can assume now that anything further from the officer must be viewed with suspicion.

By firing the officers outright, the opportunity for the DA to fix the testimony of any of the officers is now gone. And for this, the defense attorneys are grateful.

So, what happens next? Well, the prosecution must lay out their case, and now, the attorneys for all four officers can construct a defense based on the case the prosecution lays out. Further, when the Feds come in, they too are now at a disadvantage because they also don't have statements by the officers to review.

At some point, both the DA and the Feds might want to concentrate on the junior officers to obtain their cooperation in exchange for not being prosecuted as a means to convict the senior officer.

By doing the snoopy happy dance, you are aligning yourself with the people who are rioting and looting. If you were really interested in a solid prosecution, you would know that normal procedures should have been followed. This my last attempt to give you the benefit of what I have learned during my employment.

136 posted on 05/28/2020 11:18:07 AM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: DuncanWaring
"Then show us a still-shot or video demonstrating the officer’s knee on the guy’s shoulder blades, which you claim you saw."

You had your bite of the apple and you came out with half a worm. You and others posted pictures trying to disprove something I didn't say. I now give you the opportunity to search all the videos to disprove what I DID say. Buh bye.

137 posted on 05/28/2020 11:21:02 AM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: Respond Code Three

I asked you to cite images showing a knee in Floyd’s shoulder blades.

Your response clearly says they don’t exist.

The Blue Gang circles the wagons.

Again.

A great many Black folks seem to hate cops.

Keep this up and most White folks will, too.


138 posted on 05/28/2020 11:35:08 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Respond Code Three

Unfortunately you’re not thinking AT ALL.

The simple fact of the matter is these guys are going to succeed or fail in their defense TOGETHER. Nobody is turning on anybody else, any wrong doing found by IA will be portioned equally and if IA decided to fire any it will fire ALL. Which means NOBODY will talk.

The DA still has plenty of opportunity to fix testimony. Just as they do in any case against civilians. Interviews WILL be attempted. Anybody that talks WILL have that info used, both against them and their compatriots.

Meanwhile by firing them they probably lose their union representation, who are probably better lawyers than they can afford.

By pretending IA actually accomplishes ANYTHING in these cases you are ignoring the long sad history of cops getting off for stone cold murder in this country.

It’s not a happy dance, it’s a relieved sigh. Finally, for the first time I can remember, a police department has said “it doesn’t matter if you can find a way to get off, what you did was wrong, reflects poorly on the department, and we simply need to not have your kind on the force.”

Don’t know what you were supposedly employed as. But you weren’t good at it. You have learned NOTHING. You know NOTHING. You are WORTHLESS.


139 posted on 05/28/2020 12:03:11 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: discostu
Yep. Just what I thought. You argued like a hormonal female. But this may all end up moot anyway. Too bad that the Department was not able to conduct those IA interviews.

Prosecutors warn there is ‘evidence that does not support criminal charge’ in case of four cops accused of killing George Floyd as they say police can use a ‘certain amount of force - but not excessive’

140 posted on 05/28/2020 5:03:47 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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