Posted on 06/04/2020 8:33:16 PM PDT by 11th_VA
(CNN) Six Atlanta police officers were booked, five on felony charges, Wednesday after allegations of using excessive force during a protest Saturday, according to the sheriff's office.
All six have been released on signature bonds, according to the Fulton County Sheriff's Office.
In a video recording of the incident, the officers are seen breaking windows of a vehicle, pulling a woman out of the car and tasing a man.
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They should have said they were on a break and protesting.
They may get what they want. Lack of folks who undertake being LEOs.
Cities doing this will not have to defund the police. the police will just begin to leave on their own.
you think any of these guys are gonna stick their necks out from now on??...i wouldnt...
Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer who was filmed murdering George Floyd last week, had 17 different complaints of serious misconduct during his career.
That puts him among the 10% worst offenders in the Minneapolis police department.
The complaints vary from being named in a brutality lawsuit, to using demeaning, unprofessional language in public, to aiming his weapon at children.
But Chauvin never got into any serious trouble.
Civilians have filed 2,600 misconduct complaints against Minneapolis police officers over the past several years. Only 12 of them (0.46%) resulted in any discipline against the officer, with the most severe punishment being a 1-week suspension.
It’s not just Minneapolis. Around the country, the percentage of civilian complaints that result in disciplinary action is astonishingly low.
And the rate at which offending officers are severely disciplined, fired, or charged with a crime, is effectively zero.
A 2019 academic paper studied 50,000 civilian complaints against Chicago police to see if those complaints could be an indicator of who is/isn’t a bad apple.
The results were obvious: officers with the most complaints have the highest likelihood of being involved in a major civil rights issue. But they’re seldom removed.
The Chicago police officer who shot an unarmed 17-year old boy in 2014, for example, was among the department’s worst 3% in terms of civilian complaints, with half of the complaints alleging excessive force.
So it turns out you can spot a bad apple. You just can’t remove them… and give the boot to people like Chauvin who pose obvious risks.
There are plenty of good, duty-minded cops who would love to kick out the bad ones. But the system fails everyone miserably.
One key reason is a legal doctrine known as “qualified immunity”.
This goes back to a 1967 Supreme Court case which ruled that government officials should be shielded from personal liability while carrying out their duties.
This applies to police officers as well.
So in other words, you can’t sue the cops if they assault you during arrest, or invasion of your home, because they’re technically performing their official duties.
The Supreme Court did make allowances, i.e. police and government agents would not be protected by if their actions violate “clearly established law or constitutional rights.”
But this seems very difficult to prove, even if a prosecutor is inclined to try.
Over the years as civilian victims have attempted to sue police officers for misconduct, courts have routinely sided with the cops. The argument is that whatever laws the police officers violated were not ‘clearly established,’ and hence the cops are protected by qualified immunity.
Here’s one absurd example:
In 2013, Fresno police officers raided a home that was suspected to be involved in a gambling operation. They seized $275,000, but only booked $50,000 as evidence.
The other $225,000 mysteriously disappeared.
The suspects sued, and amazingly, the court ruled that “there was no clearly established law holding that officers violate [the Constitution] when they steal property seized pursuant to a warrant. . .” therefore the officers were protected by qualified immunity.
Yes, you did read that correctly. And even the Supreme Court now recognizes that qualified immunity has gone too far.
In a 2018 case, Justice Sonia Sotomayor wrote that qualified immunity is “an absolute shield for law enforcement officers, gutting the deterrent effect of the Fourth Amendment. . . it tells officers that they can shoot first and think later, and it tells the public that palpably unreasonable conduct will go unpunished.”
Justice Clarence Thomas also voiced “growing concern with our qualified immunity jurisprudence” in a 2017 opinion.
As long as qualified immunity lasts, it will continue to be abused.
Representative Justin Amash from Michigan announced a new bill, the “Ending Qualified Immunity Act”, this week. We’ll see what happens.
Another major reason why the system fails is because of the unions.
Police unions exist (in theory) to protect their officers. Like any union, they negotiate wages, working conditions, etc.
But as always, union interference goes way too far.
For example, police unions negotiate contracts with city governments that expressly prohibit officers’ careers from being blemished by civilian complaints.
Obviously there are always going fake or overblown complaints against officers. But union rules require complaints to go through a highly bureaucratic investigation process that’s closely monitored by the union.
So the unions protect their officers from scrutiny. And in the unlikely event that a complaint is sustained (0.46% in the city of Minneapolis), the unions protect their officers from any serious punishment.
In New York City, nearly 20% of the contract negotiated between the police union and the city government is devoted to disciplinary procedures and grievances.
Section 8 of Article XVI, for example, allows an officer to have his/her disciplinary record expunged under certain circumstances. And Article XXI provides several pages of lengthy protections for an officer who has been accused of misconduct.
This is why officers, even when they’re caught on film committing a crime, are often ‘suspended with pay’, never face trial, and only end up with a slap on the wrist (which can later be expunged).
In Baltimore and Cleveland, union contract require the deletion of most disciplinary records.
Unions also ensure that officers who are disciplined have a multitude of options to have the ruling against them overturned.
This hassle makes it incredibly difficult to weed out troublemakers.
And just in case the end result wasn’t completely obvious, economist Rob Gillezeau of the University of Victoria has studied the relationship between police unionization and civilian killings.
According to his analysis, there’s an overwhelming increase in civilian shooting deaths once a local police department unionizes.
This is pretty ironic when you think about it: Democrat politicians LOVE unions. But this is an obvious example of how unions can be destructive and literally end up killing people
The people of mostly-Democrat Atlanta will now get what they apparently DEMANDED - having the police stand down.
Hope they enjoy it!
They had reasonable suspicion that there was a firearm in the vehicle.
‘Nuf said.
Officer safety first.
Officer safety last
Officer safety always.
It’s insane
Sooner or later white Police Officers will learn if they are dealing with a Black criminal to leave him the hell alone. It is better than getting 20 years in the slammer. If the Blacks want to live like animals, it is their right. If they want to kill each other, it is their right. When they get tired of it , they will stop it. Leave them alone.
Cross ATL off the list for new GOP Convention site. Security is now top criteria. JAX and Fort Worth have GOP mayors. I think MESA does also. These cities have GOP governors also. FL, TX, and AZ.
I don’t know if you wrote that piece but its “aledged” murder.....
With this kind of BS, cops will start looking the other way and save their own skins.
Well ... it was excessive force and the cops got caught. OK. Fair enough.
So if we are going to do this straight and follow all the rules to the letter ... then when are we going to see all those people in those riot videos arrested?
Yep. The one who punched the fat black bitch who hit the white cop
He’s black too
cars can be used as deadly weapons
remember this when you see protestors illegally on the freeway in front of you
“So in other words, you can’t sue the cops if they assault you during arrest, or invasion of your home, because they’re technically performing their official duties.”
Total bullshit. There are mountains of examples of people suing the police for every single one of those things. Jury awards are given from coast to coast.
We are in time when you need to pick a team. Are for for the rioters, or those arrayed against them?
And I’m through weeping for Saint George Floyd. He was an actor in porn movies, a doper on fentanyl and meth, stuck a pistol into a black woman’s baby bump and demanded cash, was a gang member, drove a car stoned out of his mind, was a thief and wrestled with cops. He was an azzhole and a burden on society. We are all better off he was gone.
I’m glad if my daughter stops somewhere for gas, he won’t be over at the pump across from here.
Pick a team.
Yep. It happens already, look to see it happen even more.
But they don't stop at just killing each other, and if the police didn't investigate black on black crime, blacks like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, as well as others, would claim discrimination, and say the "white man doesn't care about crime in black neighborhoods," despite the fact that in most black communities, they won't talk to detectives about anything they see. They want the police to eliminate the crime in their neighborhoods, but they don't want to provide the cops with any info so they can get the bad guys off the street. People talk about the police not snitching on each other, but blacks are just as bad, probably worse.
You’re right. We ain’t seen nothin’ yet, I’m afraid.
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