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Retired generals who denounced Trump could be recalled to active duty and prosecuted, experts say
Justthenews.com ^ | Last Updated: June 12, 2020 - 9:28am | By Susan Katz Keating

Posted on 06/12/2020 10:18:07 AM PDT by Red Badger

The Uniform Code of Military Justice prohibits using "contemptuous words" against the president.

Retired four-star military officers who lambasted President Trump could be recalled to active duty and prosecuted for violating the U.S. Code, military law experts told Just the News.

“Retired officers can't make contemptuous remarks of the commander-in-chief,” said John Dowd, a former Marine Corps Judge Advocate and former Trump legal advisor. “They’re all subject to recall. They’re subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice until they die.”

The pertinent law is Title 10 of the U.S. Code, Section 888, the experts said.

“As part of the UCMJ, governing military law, you cannot use contemptuous words against certain officials, including the president,” one active duty Army Judge Advocate General Corps officer said. “That is a court-martial offense, and yes, you can be recalled to active duty to be court-martialed.”

The outspoken retired officers know they could be held to account, the JAG officer said.

“I don't know who the hell they think they are,” Dowd said. “It’s stunning to me. I guess the law doesn’t apply to them.”

The retired officers comprise some of the biggest marquee military names in recent times. They include former Defense Secretary Gen. James Mattis and former Special Operations Command chief Adm. William McRaven.

With increasing frequency over the past couple years, and in quick succession over the past week, they have leveled serious accusations against Trump, and have called for him to be removed from office.

In late 2019, McRaven published a New York Times op-ed titled "Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President," and later told CNN interviewer Jake Tapper that Trump is working to destroy the country.

On June 7, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Colin Powell — also speaking to CNN’s Tapper — said that Trump has “drifted away” from the U.S. Constitution. Elsewhere, Powell said Trump “lies all the time,” and called him a “menace.”

Retired Lt. Gen. John Allen, who commanded U.S. forces in Afghanistan, said in an interview that the Constitution is under threat — not from violent anarchists, but from the president of the United States.

Retired Gen. Barry McCaffrey, who led U.S. Southern Command and served in Bill Clinton’s cabinet, denounced Trump as a threat to national security. Former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Adm. Mike Mullen — who in 2012 surrendered his computers to the FBI in the course of a cybersecurity investigation — accused Trump of giving succor to foreign detractors.

Last week, Mattis launched his own salvo.

“We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership,” Mattis wrote about Trump in The Atlantic. “We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society,” he said, adding Trump made a mockery of the Constitution.

Amid publicity surrounding the comments, the retired officers rallied around one another, giving virtual salutes and fist-bumps.

McCaffrey posted on social media his support of Powell and Mattis. He tweeted a Tik Tok video mocking Trump, and made fun of Mattis critic Sebastian Gorka, calling him “a childish fraud.”

Members of the military community who are not retired four stars questioned the chorus of denunciation.

"The sudden rush by retired flag officers to come out and declare the commander-in-chief to be the greatest threat to our Constitution, is nothing short of abhorrent,” Army veteran Chad Longell told Just the News. “While rioters loot and burn the country, while anarchists attempt to take over an American city, and while many are now calling for the abolition of entire police departments, these leaders think the president's style is the greatest threat to our country?”

In an open letter published online, one former Marine Corps officer called “Mad Dog” to task. “Who do you think you are to speak out in such a disgraceful manner against a sitting president?” wrote retired Col. Jim Bathurst. “Do you believe your rank entitles you to talk such trash?”

One active duty enlisted soldier and combat veteran said he is deeply disappointed by the retired flag officers’ comments.

“I thought our leaders are supposed to be neutral,” the soldier said. “They are acting like political partisans. That, and the level of groupthink mob mentality, shakes me to my core.”

Said Longell, who served tours in Iraq and Afghanistan: “What world are they living in?”

Retired and active duty military questioned why the vocal four-star officers previously remained silent on issues and policies that sent American troops to their deaths.

“Where were they during the Obama administration, when the rules of engagement (ROE) were getting American soldiers killed?” demanded retired Infantry officer and combat veteran Jim Lechner, a history professor. “The administration imposed an unworkable strategy and ROEs that were criminal. Why didn’t these flag officers speak up about that?”

In 2015, when asked directly by this reporter about the rules of engagement and whether they endangered American lives downrange, McRaven declined to answer.

In his own open letter, Dowd asked Mattis why he did not stop one notorious enemy.

“Perhaps you ought to explain how and why you (and John Allen), as [Commanding General] Central Command, did not engage and take out Iranian Major General Soleimani who roamed the Middle East and wreaked havoc and death of American boys with his infamous IEDs,” wrote Dowd.

Dowd said that he received a response from Mattis, and that their exchange — which he did not share — was “pleasant.”

The retired flag officers have been praised by supporters who believe their comments are warranted and helpful. And, while the criticisms of Trump could bring consequences via the military justice system, charges likely will not be filed, the JAG officer said.

“Could they be recalled to active duty and prosecuted? Yes,” the officer said. “Will they be? Highly unlikely.”

The effects of their words, though, ripple through the ranks.

“The only people who are politicizing the military are the flag officers who are telling our current service members that their commander-in-chief is the greatest threat to our republic,” Longell said. “I can barely think of anything as dangerous to our nation [as] to inject such a thesis as that into the already highly volatile chapter of our history we are in.”

Longell and three other active duty soldiers who spoke to Just the News report wanting neutrality and unity from senior leaders, including those who are retired.

Said Longell: “As a veteran who has tremendous respect for many of these leaders, it is with a painful feeling of disbelief and disappointment that I watch them now become tools of the very dangerous flames of political opportunism which threaten our great republic."


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One would think that they would know this.......................
1 posted on 06/12/2020 10:18:08 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Yes, indeed, but why do I think that will never happen?

I think the Rats are going to ramp up Hussein Head military against Trump as his rallies resume.


2 posted on 06/12/2020 10:21:58 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: Red Badger

MAKE IT HAPPEN!!


3 posted on 06/12/2020 10:22:02 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Red Badger

Yeah, but these partisan hacks were not on active duty when they attacked the President...so hard to say how that fits in to the UCMJ....


4 posted on 06/12/2020 10:22:57 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Red Badger

Obammy generals that is who they are. Made their ranks on obammy.


5 posted on 06/12/2020 10:23:38 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Friends at FR - Are you prepared to meet the LORD??? Do you KNOW Him? Do so today!)
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To: EagleUSA

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/888


6 posted on 06/12/2020 10:24:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Always trust God............but wash your hands......................)
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To: Red Badger

I guess they’re terrified that Trump will end all the wars we’re currently involved in.


7 posted on 06/12/2020 10:25:44 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
When they're found guilty, I suggest firing squads.

8 posted on 06/12/2020 10:26:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Red Badger

They probably think no one in the GOP would have the drive to actually do it, vs threatening to do it. Toothless threats from Lindsey, Gowdy, Barr.

The Dems would have already indicted and began the televised prosecutions of the more talkative Generals.


9 posted on 06/12/2020 10:26:53 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: Red Badger

It’s high time that these Obama appointed and promoted Generals got a dose of reality.


10 posted on 06/12/2020 10:27:33 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Red Badger

“Without mature leadership?”

Look who’s talking! Ridiculous. Our President has been nothing if not mature during this entire crisis.

Impeachment, coronavirus, rioting and looting...it just doesn’t stop.

I’m surprised that he isn’t hiding in a corner somewhere.


11 posted on 06/12/2020 10:27:43 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (In these trying times, "Give me Liberty or Give me Death!")
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To: treetopsandroofs

High ranking military officers often lead very sheltered lives with little observation of conditions outside of their very narrow focus. Under Clinton, Obama and even Bush conservatives were purged while liberals were elevated beyond their personal capabilities.


12 posted on 06/12/2020 10:28:44 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: Red Badger

They have thrown every thing at him I think they are heading to the nuclear option god forbid the A word


13 posted on 06/12/2020 10:29:50 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: Red Badger

Historically the worst type of political connivers rise to the top of the military during peacetime. In the event of a major war the average soldier suffers greatly until competent warriors take over. The Joint Chiefs of Staff has devolved into just another loathesome Federal bureaucracy. Conservative are legitimately patriotic but they have traditionally given far to much respect to Generals and Admirals. Perhaps its becoming apparent that these people are not worthy of all the adulation they have been given.


14 posted on 06/12/2020 10:33:08 AM PDT by allendale
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To: Red Badger

Yes, I remember that section of the UCMJ (am a Vet) which gets down to the question whether their commissions were terminated technically upon retirement or not. I don’t know...anyway, good point.


15 posted on 06/12/2020 10:33:40 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Red Badger

It is the law and the law should be followed and a precedent would be established.


16 posted on 06/12/2020 10:34:04 AM PDT by Meatspace
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To: Red Badger

What can happen and what will happen are two different things.


17 posted on 06/12/2020 10:34:11 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: allendale

Lincoln fired something like 5 Generals before Grant took over....................


18 posted on 06/12/2020 10:34:30 AM PDT by Red Badger (Always trust God............but wash your hands......................)
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To: Red Badger

This is not going to happen. You don’t surrender your 1st Amendment rights because of your prior position.

While this is on the books, it has always been more of a custom just like prior Presidents not criticizing current Presidents.

Customs and norms are out the window it seems, but nobody will be prosecuted for this. There have been “tell all books” and endless appearances on news shows. Jack Keane (someone I respect) has politely criticized the prior administration every week on television and nobody has called for him to be prosecuted.

If you are a beltway creature, even a retired 4 star, and you want a good gig in the beltway you have to tow the uniparty line. The sooner people acknowledge that 99% of the beltway denizens oppose Trump the sooner we can have a real conversation.


19 posted on 06/12/2020 10:35:06 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: Red Badger

I wouldn’t support that. They are Americans and private citizens not on active duty. They have as much right to be a-holes as anyone else now.


20 posted on 06/12/2020 10:35:36 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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