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1 posted on 08/08/2020 7:42:04 AM PDT by robowombat
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Strange how American newsies are not the least bit interested in the story.


2 posted on 08/08/2020 7:45:55 AM PDT by Texas Eagle
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Interesting but still implies accidental and not military unless you want to say Russia sailed the ship in to blow it up.

It seems to me more likely that Beirut authorities ordered the ship next to the ammonium nitrate warehouse in case they had to offload it.


4 posted on 08/08/2020 7:47:26 AM PDT by Skywise
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Thanks for finding this.

His theory is that there is another ship at the docks loaded with AN, that catches on fire and starts the fire / explosion?

Hmmm ... worth digging into.

6 posted on 08/08/2020 7:53:48 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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Something may have gone up in the middle ship but I don't see how that explains shape of the crater. The crater is pretty much centered directly beneath where the warehouse used to be. Note that the smallest vessel berthed in the corner was blown completely out of the water onto the wharf.


8 posted on 08/08/2020 7:56:36 AM PDT by fso301
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Can someone interpret this? What the dickens does “these ships are off” mean? Were three ships sunk or were three ships missing or did three ships leave the port?

“”Three ships were berthed near explosion site, AIS of all these ships are off during last 14-16 hours, immediately or shortly after, the blast. General cargo ship MERO STAR, IMO 8321682, dwt 4110; general cargo ship RAOUF H, IMO 8325535, dwt 6343; Livestock carrier JOURI, IMO 9174775, GT 4033.””


9 posted on 08/08/2020 7:56:37 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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New vid on this site I’ve not seen before from a very close position. Shows the first explosion and subsequent fire. Fireworks going off all over the place and a very hot fire inside the building. Goes on for a few seconds before the big blast.


14 posted on 08/08/2020 8:01:54 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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There is a chunk missing from the wharf. Is it due to a section collapsing, or something else?


15 posted on 08/08/2020 8:02:23 AM PDT by fso301
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Filling in the mystery of why the ship went there, the retired master said the owner directed them to divert to that port.

Possibly it was a cargo delivery disguised as a confiscation of the cargo.


17 posted on 08/08/2020 8:07:12 AM PDT by Cold Heart (Legalize Hydroxychloroquine)
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One of the questions that has been unasked is, “Why was Grechushkin hired to transport AN to Mozambique in 2013? And who was it for?”

From another FReeper, NitroPril AN is designed to be used as an explosive rather than a true fertilizer.

It turns out that an Islamist group was starting up in 2012/2013/2014 and would have wanted to make a big splash - very common MO for terrorist groups. From an energy newsletter:

https://www.energyvoice.com/oilandgas/africa/243056/mozambique-claims-rebel-leaders-killed/

The Ahlu Sunna Wal Jamaa (ASWJ) group emerged in 2014 and has become increasingly active since 2017. ... Mozambique’s military forces (in 2020) have regained control of Macomia, a town in the northern Cabo Delgado Province around 200 km from the Total LNG construction site.

So we have a Russian arms dealer, supplying AN to an Islamist group that is starting up, to stop or slow a $15 billion LNG project that can free southern and East Africa from buying LNG and fuel from the open market.

Prices for LNG were sky high in 2012 and 2013.

Was this one of the ways that Islamist groups wage war on local pro-Western governments, by being supplied through back doors like in the old Cold War days?

Last question - why is a guy that took $1,000,000 from a Russian arms dealer that supplied Islamists still alive in the Middle East six years later?

22 posted on 08/08/2020 8:13:33 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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Looking at a satellite image of the port before and after view it is clear the explosion was in one of the warehouses not in a ship.


26 posted on 08/08/2020 8:17:14 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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I saw huge bags of fertilizer in a photo from a warehouse there in one news story.


28 posted on 08/08/2020 8:19:28 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Pure ammonium nitrate is not explosive... it is an oxidizer which increases the rate of combustion of fuels like diesel oil by adding oxygen. So how did this batch become “contaminated”? It took a lot of fuel to produce this amount of devistation.
30 posted on 08/08/2020 8:21:26 AM PDT by fireman15
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Ammonium nitride is a great fertilizer. Why they did not confiscate the cargo and sold it out for fertilizer? They would make good money and solved the problem easily.


39 posted on 08/08/2020 8:44:01 AM PDT by AZJeep
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“Many believe that yesterday’s explosion in Beirut was caused by that ammonium nitrate cargo on board of RHOSUS.”

Could be.....but ammonium nitrate has been stored in large quantities (Approximately 2750 tons) in that warehouse since 2013. Right next to fireworks probably was not a good plan as it takes a small ignition force to blow. One little fire, and boom! And in this case...boom......and then much bigger boom.

https://time.com/5875922/fireworks-ammonium-nitrate-likely-fueled-beirut-explosion/

rwood


57 posted on 08/08/2020 9:44:23 AM PDT by Redwood71
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Many believe that yesterday’s explosion in Beirut was caused by that ammonium nitrate cargo on board of RHOSUS. Probably. General cargo vessel Rhosus, IMO 8630344, dwt 3226, built 1986, flag Moldova

Except that Rhosus apparently sank in Beirut two years ago: Link

80 posted on 08/08/2020 1:08:47 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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