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About Joe’s Energy Jobs: Building trades workers prefer their oil and gas gigs to a green promise.
Wall Street Journal ^ | August 24, 2020 | WSJ Editorial Board

Posted on 08/25/2020 5:05:48 AM PDT by karpov

Joe Biden has a message for the fossil-fuel workers he admits he’ll be putting out of work: I have an even better job for you. So why is the nation’s premier building-trade federation warning its members not to believe it?

In July Mr. Biden released a climate agenda that vows a “100% clean energy economy” by 2050. That means largely eliminating coal, oil or natural gas by that date, and Mr. Biden would start by banning all drilling and hydraulic fracturing on federal land. He’d also create a carbon “enforcement mechanism”—a carbon tax of some kind—to raise the cost of private fossil-fuel development.

The Democratic nominee understands this risks alienating blue-collar energy workers in states like Pennsylvania and Ohio. So Mr. Biden is pitching his plan as an opportunity to create “10 million good-paying, middle-class, union jobs.” He’d have taxpayers spend $1.7 trillion in part to “train all of America’s workforce to tap into the growing clean-energy economy,” including energy workers who will install “millions of new solar panels and tens of thousands of wind turbines.” Oil riggers, you will be pleased to know, will seamlessly transition to solar technicians.

North America’s Building Trades Unions, a labor federation of 14 unions and three million members, begs to differ. In July the NABTU—whose affiliates include the Teamsters and International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers—released two surveys of workers and statistics that analyze jobs across the energy economy. They found that “both union and non-union” tradespeople report that oil and gas jobs “have better wages, benefits and opportunities than renewables projects.”

One survey conducted interviews, focus groups and an online survey with some 1,700 union and non-union workers in energy jobs. Workers reported that oil and gas jobs were longer-term, resulting in steadier incomes and more consistent benefits.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; energy; fracking; jobs
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1 posted on 08/25/2020 5:05:48 AM PDT by karpov
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To: karpov

I was IBEW in PA, and I can tell you almost all of the workers(linemen) voted for Trump.


2 posted on 08/25/2020 5:08:14 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: karpov

You can’t power a modern technological civilization with wind and solar. Convince me otherwise.


3 posted on 08/25/2020 5:24:36 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: karpov

Gang Green would have you freezing and starving in the dark.


4 posted on 08/25/2020 5:24:50 AM PDT by Noumenon (When Hunter Biden sent out for a dildo for his strip club soiree, they brought back Adam Schiff.)
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To: karpov

I’m a petroleum geologist, I cleared 380,000 in 2019 not including unvested stocks and long term bond options. There’s not a “green job” anywhere that can approach that kind of compensation level. Granted I’m not a junior level and hold multiple graduate and post graduate degrees, certs and licences but even a junior geologist prior to covid was based at 150k per year. Installing solar panels or windmills is not going to bring salaries like that EVER.


5 posted on 08/25/2020 5:34:55 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: FreedomPoster

There’s a small array of windmills in Somerset, PA, right along the turnpike.

OK, there’s one windmill that actually turns and about six more white towers with wings that remain still in even the strongest wind.

What an absolute waste


6 posted on 08/25/2020 5:35:37 AM PDT by cyclotic (The most dangerous people are the ones that feel the most helpless)
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To: Noumenon

Let me know when wind power can reliably supply multiple 440 volt three phase electric current to a modern manufacturing facility or data center.

L


7 posted on 08/25/2020 5:39:53 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: karpov
That means largely eliminating coal, oil or natural gas by that date [2050]

Joe Biden is The Joker.

He's already got the grinning clown's-mouth.

8 posted on 08/25/2020 5:46:48 AM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: karpov

Ain’t going to be a lot of gas gigs soon anyway. With prices here, the incentive to develop resources is negative.


9 posted on 08/25/2020 6:03:25 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Lurker

How about.... never.


10 posted on 08/25/2020 6:04:39 AM PDT by Noumenon (When Hunter Biden sent out for a dildo for his strip club soiree, they brought back Adam Schiff.)
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To: cyclotic
There’s a small array of windmills in Somerset, PA, right along the turnpike.

I used to go by there all the time. There was never more than two turbines running at the same time. The wind blows constantly there. If one turbine could run, they could all run. Like you said, "an absolute waste." Worse yet, one way or another (higher electric bills or government subsidies) we paid for those useless turbines.

11 posted on 08/25/2020 6:05:53 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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To: ConservativeInPA

everybodys gonna get a job holding a clipboard and wearing a hard hat....and make a gajillion dollars an hour...ice cream...rainbows....PONIES!!!!!...itll be magic!


12 posted on 08/25/2020 6:14:34 AM PDT by basalt
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To: cyclotic

I saw a TV show just recently. It was Engineering Disasters on the Science Channel. It was about wind turbines in the North Sea off of Denmark. Probably made by Vestas wind systems.

It showed another maintenance issue with wind turbines I had never heard of prior. The leading edge of the blade is constantly impacting at 150 mph small bits of debris in the air(sand, grit, salt, etc) this debris eventually breaks down the leading edge of the gel coat/fiberglass. So, technicians have to repel down the blade and cover the leading edge of the blade with this fabric to keep the blade from breaking apart.


13 posted on 08/25/2020 7:11:21 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

Saw that show. I found the part about the blades to be fascinating.


14 posted on 08/25/2020 7:16:15 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

I owned stock in Vesta wind systems for a few years. I doubled my money and sold it. I am glad I did.

It is amazing the damage a million tiny pieces of salt/sand can do. I guess it is like a sand blaster. The damage to the leading edge of those blades was incredible. That was in the North Sea. What about in the deserts of California where there is a lot more sand blowing in the air?


15 posted on 08/25/2020 7:48:07 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Lurker

You can’t put solar panels on a Trident submarine.


16 posted on 08/26/2020 12:04:11 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: karpov

Joe Biden has never created a single job for anyone. In fact while Democrats say they love jobs the truth is they hate business.


17 posted on 08/26/2020 12:06:29 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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