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Nine Covid-19 Vaccine Developers Pledge To Uphold Scientific Integrity
AFP/Washington via Gulf Times ^ | 09/08/2020

Posted on 09/08/2020 8:08:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: ZOOKER
The Russians managed to do it.

The Russian vaccine has not completed its phase 3 trials, which are considered key in demonstrating the safety and efficacy of a vaccine and are usually completed before regulatory approval is given.

https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-warns-putin-russia-coronavirus-vaccine-has-not-been-fully-tested-2020-8

21 posted on 09/08/2020 10:33:44 AM PDT by tlozo
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To: caww
So you think Fauci as an example, who is financialy and personally invested in vaccines, would not be/is not biased one way or another.
people determine the risk and their health surrounding their decision.
Like they get to do with hydroxychloroquine and other drugs.

Got it.

22 posted on 09/08/2020 11:04:04 AM PDT by lewislynn ( It's not your color stupid, it's your attitude.)
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To: lewislynn

“The fact they have to pledge their integrity says all you need to know about the overall science integrity...There isn’t any.”


And the fact that the vaccine makers demanded and were granted blanket immunity from any vaccine caused injury.

It should also be known that a special Vaccine Court was set up for vaccine injury compensation and has paid out close to $4 billion in claims.


23 posted on 09/08/2020 11:26:05 AM PDT by Captain7seas (UN EXIT!)
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To: Diogenesis

Watch the documentary “Plandemic, indoctranation”

The CDC obtained a patent on it.


24 posted on 09/08/2020 11:28:30 AM PDT by Captain7seas (UN EXIT!)
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To: caww

“It’s a fact a vacccine is needed...”

That is NOT a fact.


25 posted on 09/08/2020 11:31:54 AM PDT by Captain7seas (UN EXIT!)
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To: Captain7seas

ok....explain why not....and your sources.


26 posted on 09/08/2020 11:37:29 AM PDT by caww
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To: SeekAndFind
Stephen Hahn, the head of the FDA, has also guaranteed that only science will decide when a vaccine is ready.

I happen to be a scientist, and I can relate that a large fraction of my fellow scientists (especially those in the regulatory parts of government) are slow movers, nearly to being the very model of inertia.

And related...

Considering that many of our fine Citizens are aged and immunocompromised, is this not unlike a RIGHT TO TRY issue?

Phrased another way, if a prospective vaccine has already passed phase 1 (safety), and if no reasonable alternative to a vaccine, then why could not our at risk citizens decide for themselves whether taking a safe vaccine of possibly uncertain effectiveness is the right choice for them?

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27 posted on 09/08/2020 1:54:16 PM PDT by Seaplaner
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To: lewislynn

I do my own investigation on ANY vaccine or medication I put in my body. And is what everyone should do.. As for who’s invested in the company’s producing them....frankly it doesn’t matter to me as long as they’re made here in the US. You can’t go around figuring out who or what investors are invested in when they have portfolios likely full of various entities.

I certainly don’t base my decisions on what political side of the isle someone is on. Rather the information I can access and determine whatever risk I chose or not to take.


28 posted on 09/08/2020 2:36:15 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
I certainly don’t base my decisions on what political side of the isle someone is on. Rather the information I can access and determine whatever risk I chose or not to take.

A voice of reason is always appreciated in matters like this.

29 posted on 09/08/2020 2:39:06 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: windsorknot

Thanks....good idea for people not to get wrapped up in the political drumbeat regarding Covid or the vacine. People will determine what they will and neither side politically will assume the blame if you’re wrong.


30 posted on 09/08/2020 2:52:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Exactly. Follow the science, not the political science.


31 posted on 09/08/2020 3:24:33 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: SeekAndFind

IN FACT they used the exact same oath that our corrupt as heck congressmen do!

Yes...the same one...see, the words don’t actually matter so any oat will do.


32 posted on 09/08/2020 3:49:43 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: caww

Here is a clue:

“On the 28th February, yes that far back, the New England Journal of Medicine published a report by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, National Institutes of Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In this paper ‘COVID-19 — Navigating the Uncharted’ they stated the following: “If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate (my underline) may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza.” A case fatality rate considerably less than 1%. Their words, not mine. As they also added, ‘the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza.”” Scroll down at https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/09/04/covid-why-terminology-really-matters/ The author is an experienced Scottish physician. Reference links are at the end of his excellent article.


33 posted on 09/09/2020 6:05:09 AM PDT by Captain7seas (UN EXIT!)
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Well that makes my point....somebody thought a flu shot was ‘needed’ for those at risk and so it was and many people chose to take it. Thus similar that a covid vaccine is in the pipeline to address those at risk. (You note he mentions a 'severe' flu season comparable to covid.) So I have no problem that they're wanting to get a vaccine out there. Especially for those at risk. As for the numbers and percentages always being reported...well it's sufficient just knowing people at risk can and do get very ill with this and some with lingering symptoms after well beyond it. Up to people to determine their health risk.....and decide accordingly.
34 posted on 09/09/2020 9:32:33 AM PDT by caww
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