Posted on 11/20/2020 7:05:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Well, we have a new study on mask-wearing in the time of COVID, and it once again shows that the so-called experts have been peddling information that might not be true. Of course, on a commonsense scale, wearing a mask to prevent spreading the virus makes sense. It does not make you immune. And with the back-and-forth on masks, the credibility of this recommendation has been shot up like a piece of swiss cheese. The best part is that the study undermines the mask regime the COVID Nazis want us to abide by on a daily basis. Look, I won’t lie, folks, I can’t shop for groceries without a mask, so I have been wearing one. Also, I don’t want to waste time being mobbed by the "COVID Karens," but the headline in The New York Times piece says it all about the media and when their narrative gets blown up.
"A New Study Questions Whether Masks Protect Wearers. You Need to Wear Them Anyway." That’s the headline. So, now what? We shouldn’t trust the experts? (via NYT) [emphasis mine]:
Researchers in Denmark reported on Wednesday that surgical masks did not protect the wearers against infection with the coronavirus in a large randomized clinical trial. But the findings conflict with those from a number of other studies, experts said, and is not likely to alter public health recommendations in the United States.
The study, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, did not contradict growing evidence that masks can prevent transmission of the virus from wearer to others. But the conclusion is at odds with the view that masks also protect the wearers — a position endorsed just last week by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Critics were quick to note the study’s limitations, among them that the design depended heavily on participants reporting their own test results and behavior, at a time when both mask-wearing and infection were rare in Denmark.
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From early April to early June, researchers at the University of Copenhagen recruited 6,024 participants who had been tested beforehand to be sure they were not infected with the coronavirus.
Half were given surgical masks and told to wear them when leaving their homes; the others were told not to wear masks in public.
At that time, 2 percent of the Danish population was infected — a rate lower than that in many places in the United States and Europe today. Social distancing and frequent hand-washing were common, but masks were not.
About 4,860 participants completed the study. The researchers had hoped that masks would cut the infection rate by half among wearers. Instead, 42 people in the mask group, or 1.8 percent, got infected, compared with 53 in the unmasked group, or 2.1 percent. The difference was not statistically significant.
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Dr. Mette Kalager, a researcher at Telemark Hospital in Norway and the Harvard School of Public Health, was persuaded. The study showed that “although there might be a symbolic effect,” she wrote in an email, “the effect of wearing a mask does not substantially reduce risk” for wearers.
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Dr. Christine Laine, editor in chief of the Annals of Internal Medicine, described the previous evidence that masks protect wearers as weak. “These studies cannot differentiate between source control and personal protection of the mask wearer,” she said.
Dr. Laine said the new study underscored the need for adherence to other precautions, like social distancing. Masks “are not a magic bullet,” she said. “There are people who say, ‘I’m fine, I’m wearing a mask.’ They need to realize they are not invulnerable to infection.”
Of course, continue to practice social distancing and wash your hands for 20-seconds as often as possible, but this mask stuff has again taken a hit. With that, I don’t know who to trust. It changes, almost like the number of glasses of water one should drink a day. First, they said eight glasses, and then they said that’s too much; we’re pissing away proper nutrients. All I know is that when you don’t know, you can’t issue mask mandates, nor can you issue lockdowns. This is an era where information abounds. People are going to find out over 180-degree reversals like this—and when they do, they are bound not to listen to these people anymore. Any credibility is shattered. It’s already been shattered. You cannot protest or, in the case of Notre Dame, storm a football field when your team beats a #1-ranked opponent in Clemson, but celebrating in the streets and sharing bottles of champagne post-Election Day is okay in the cities. In California, Gov. Gavin Newsom was forced to eat crap when he issued his "you have to stay inside" order, only to abscond to Napa Valley for a dinner with multiple friends. The lawmakers from this state also backed lockdowns before going to Maui. Yeah, and people wonder why there’s so much opposition to lockdowns. The experts don’t know anything. The Democrats are getting off on the lockdown authority harder than Jeffrey Toobin on a Zoom call. A lockdown that’s not based on solid scientific evidence, or at the very least evidence where the jury is indeed still out, like masks, isn’t a public safety measure—it’s a power grab. And the American people have caught on to it.
Drama queens gotta be well dramatic. 😉
Great to hear about yr entire family and blessings from the author of blessings. If He May.
Yes, you said that before, that is why I pointed out that Dr. Z’s protocol is only 5 to 7 days. When I am only using for health maintenance I use a good one a day multi vitamin and mineral morning and evening which gives some zinc along with coppeer, also 2 cal/mag/zinc tablets a day, Vitamin C, and Vitamin D3 5000 IU with low sun, or less when lots of sun and I am outdoors. I also use a number of other supplements and have for many years. When I have a body problem I do a Google search of the problem and “nutrition and supplement problems to help.” Three years ago I hurt my knee while crawling out a small window to put a new roof on my porch. MSM, condroiton complex, and various colagin and sea creature supplements may have helped solve my knee issue. Two years ago I realized that I was having a cataract problem, but did not want surgery. I started taking 20 mg. Lutien and 4 mg. Astaxanthine morning and evening, and the cataract is less than 1/4th the severity it was before. I am now 82 and still spry and active.
I personally have not had any noticeable result with lutein, but will look into astaxanthin for its use in various aspects of tissue repair. Thanks.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5946307/
Oh, I have already been taking it, a variation spelled as “zeaxanthin”.
Vitamin C needs are highly variable. Your body tends to run out of C after 5 or 6 hours. I have allergies to household dust, cool tempereature molds, and several others. My main symptom is nasal congestion. I have been taking 3 to 6 grams of C for over 45 years, usually spread over 3 or 4 times a day. When I am going to clean house I take 1 to 2000 mg before stiring up the dust. I have taken 20 grams of C in divided doses when sick with the flu. Needs are very individual. If you are taking too much you will get burning urine, acid farts or diarrhea, then reduce what you are taking. This is called taking to “bowel tolerance.” See Dr. Cathcart for more on Medicinal uses of C. I think that adequate Vitamin D is important in preventing the post Covid micro-bleeding events. Also very important for darker skinned people who have trouble absorbing D through their skin.
Also, I wanted to point out that, although Dr. Z stipulates a limited-duration regimen, many people will see 50 mg zinc and take that amount until it runs out.
Note that I have been taking 40 mg a day of Lutien for 2 years. Sometimes I have taken zeaxantine when I didnt fint astaxantine.
Just to clarify, Dr. Z said 220 mg zinc sulfate, one daily 5 to 7 days for treatment, a lot less for health maintenance. The 50 mg. ELEMENTAL ZINC was because there are a number of different forms of zinc, and I have not found zinc sulfate, so you have to calculate how much actual zinc is in each tablet. I have zinc oxide 50 mg, but it has a much smaller amount of elemental zinc, so I calculated I needed to take 5 of those tablets to get 50 mg. of elemental zinc, which I would only do if I thought I was sick with Covid. Currently I take one every other day along with what I mentioned taking before.
As I might have mentioned in this thread, I take 22 mg of the easily-absorbed zinc picolinate and deem it adequate. Quercetin bromelain also for ionophore function; itself a well-absorbed form.
Exactly! Who the heck wants to sneeze into a mask and then walk around with snot on your face? Yuck.
Except then you can wash your hands or dispose of the tissue. If you sneeze into your mask, yuck.
Same and same.
I won’t fly again until airlines drop the mask requirement.
And I won’t attend church in person until the mask requirement is dropped once we’re seated (socially distanced).
Thank you again for bring up astaxantin and the “z” variation. I actually quit taking the “z” this past spring when I didn’t feel it was doing anything and I started taking so many other supplements for covid defense and also other conditions. I had become vaguely aware that my skin seemed much more dry since about that time and was puzzled. Thinking it was one of the new supplements that was causing it. Well, it turns out that astaxantin creates a moisturizing effect on the skin, a fairly pronounced one, and withdrawing it should cause the opposite. I have re-commenced starting today and looking forward to the results!
Totally agree. I hate face diapers
I don’t care if you choose to wear a mask. It brightens my day to laugh at the idiots that do so when I see them. I get a kick out of the sheeple that willingly comply with Demwits. Have fun! I certainly will. ;)
Your post suggests otherwise.
What shameless lying:
“...although there might be a symbolic effect,” she wrote in an email, “the effect of wearing a mask does not substantially reduce risk”
There was no statistically valid difference within the study between those wearing and not wearing masks, so the study doesn’t show any reduction of risk at all (and of course therefore no substantial reduction of risk).
They don’t do any good
thank you.
Way back in Jan of last year I said the same thing.
In fact there used to be the report/study from the 1918 pandemic that said as much too. Good luck finding it now!
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