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Rand Paul: Trump Senate impeachment trial an 'illegitimate procedure' without John Roberts
Washington Examiner ^ | Jan 23 | by Andrew Mark Miller,

Posted on 01/24/2021 3:30:25 AM PST by RandFan

Sen. Rand Paul says that a Senate impeachment trial of former President Donald Trump that doesn’t include Chief Justice John Roberts would be an illegitimate process.

“If Justice Roberts won’t preside over this sham ‘impeachment’ then why would it ever be considered legitimate?” the Kentucky Republican tweeted Friday. “Hint: It won’t be.”

Later in the day, Paul joined Fox News’s Sean Hannity and elaborated on his impeachment stance, calling it an “illegitimate procedure” if Roberts isn’t there.

“It isn’t a real impeachment. It’s going to be a fake, partisan impeachment,” Paul said about a process without Roberts.

“The story is,” Paul continued, “that the chief justice is not going to be asked, but the reason he’s not going to be asked is he’s privately said he’s not supposed to come unless it’s an impeachment of the president.”

“So, this is an illegitimate procedure,” he said. “And even the chief justice of the Supreme Court, who's not a rabid Trump person, who's actually, if anything, sort of in the middle, he is now saying this is illegitimate because I’m not getting in the middle of this and I’m not coming over for this.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: blackmail; johnroberts; randpaul
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To: damper99
"Chief Justice only presides in trial of "the President", meaning the sitting President....text doesn't say "a President".

Again, you cannot Impeach the President as "A President", and then Trial him on those charges as a private citizen.

Just as you assert the former "language", thus "language" also fails the charge: the Constitution does not make private citizens subject to Impeachment.

And note Belknap's post-resignation trial is inapplicable here. (A) Trump did not resign, God bless him; and (B) Trump has what Belknap never had - presidential immunity.

Not only is Roberts going to have to rule on his absence, Queeg will be forced to address a seperate suit asserting that presidential immunity absolves him from the civil actions undertaken by others, and Roberts will be forced to address a case that will be dog-eared with references to Nixon v. Fitzgerald and Clinton v. Jones.

Thus Trump will remind us all that a living President, rather than having been tried and convicted after Office, was instead "alternatively sanctioned":

Klink's perjury (in Office) and suborning perjury (in Office) failed removal, yet this ridiculous banana court insipidity by Madame Defarge arises from a speech where Trump said, "Our country has had enough. We will not take it any more and that’s what this is all about. To use a favourite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal.". That's it. It's all about one crazy fucking old lady mad-ass butt-hurt than a dude put her muddy boots on her desk.

My advice to Trump is hire Dersh, hire Turley, but go all-in -- make it all about Pelosi and Schumer, drag Klink into it, drag Roberts into it, drag Karamela into it.

81 posted on 01/24/2021 12:23:35 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Yes, start the war—FBI has all the people identified—at the first sign they will snuff out any rebellion and into the camps will go all the “Enemies of Freedom

Riiiiight. 75 million with guns being enslaved by liberals? Good luck with that!


82 posted on 01/24/2021 12:39:26 PM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian (It is the Trump way! It is the only way)
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To: RandFan

roberts is a coward. if there’s a way out of it, he’ll take it.


83 posted on 01/24/2021 4:20:07 PM PST by JohnBrowdie ( )
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

You should search for and read, “Unintended Consequences”.


84 posted on 01/24/2021 4:28:46 PM PST by MercyFlush (Donald Trump is my President and Free Republic is my social media!)
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To: Eleutheria5

Roberts needs to recuse himself, as he is a conspirator to the steal when he refused to take the Pennsylvania case.

Trumps lawyers should put that SOB on the witness stand.


85 posted on 01/24/2021 4:47:42 PM PST by PA-RIVER ( )
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To: All

DC itself is become one big ‘illegitimate procedure’. It does not even pretend to follow USConstitution. Lawless and evil, conquered by our enemies.


86 posted on 01/24/2021 5:00:10 PM PST by veracious (UN=OIC=Islam; USgov may be radically changed, just amend USConstitution)
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To: Eleutheria5

“It’s an illegitimate procedure regardless.”

EXACTLY! Based, as it is, on the null and void result of an unconstitutional process in The House, wherein hundreds of sitting Representatives outright VIOLATED their Oath of Office.

Oh, but CNN et. al. don’t got no time fo dat truck, ‘cuz dey in fo da big doin’s what’s gwyna sock it to da Orange Man.

Speaking of which... all this Orange Man talk... Da Hell are the Irish? Oughta be a REAL brouhaha boiling up someplace; maybe along about St. Pattie’s Day...


87 posted on 01/25/2021 1:29:12 AM PST by HKMk23 (The days of my sojourn have been few and evil, and I have not attained the staure of my forebears.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Agree ! Well said !


88 posted on 01/25/2021 6:42:23 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Bullish

Well, for one, they are legitimate communists.


89 posted on 01/25/2021 12:05:53 PM PST by JME_FAN (MOLON LABE!)
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To: Eleutheria5

BREAKING: Hunter Biden expected to lead DEA— Rep. Anthony Sabatini (@AnthonySabatini) January 25, 2021


90 posted on 01/25/2021 3:08:39 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Eleutheria5

They want to make Trump anathema, not a heroic martyr.


91 posted on 01/25/2021 10:40:04 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

If they handle the spin right, they can manage to make him a mangy dog who got what was coming to him. Just have the fall guy be a disaffected deplorable, angry because Trump wasn’t racist enough for him.


92 posted on 01/25/2021 11:44:59 PM PST by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all the time. You just have to believe." Will Robinson)
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To: Eleutheria5

“TV is for fake news, and willful ignorance in the name of subversive narratives.”

See where the MSM cleaned up Schumer’s quote?

Schumer stuttered over “Trump”, then stumbled over “erection” instead of “insurrection”. Those errors were SCRUBBED—Soviet-style reporting!


93 posted on 01/26/2021 12:44:39 AM PST by Does so (Joe Biden: "I don't know what I'm signing".)
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To: StAnDeliver

Rand Paul Drops NUKE on Dems’ Plans for Second Impeachment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxIwsd5wtwk


94 posted on 01/26/2021 6:10:30 PM PST by Texan4Life
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To: RandFan

No John Roberts?

It makes no difference.

One must remember that noble Democrats are seeking to purge
the enemies of Democracy from the United States. So, it makes no difference at all what Democrats do because they are Democrats and have license and privilege to do what they choose in their noble quest.

Democrats make the rules, and if it does not coincide with the Constitution, it’ OK because they ARE the law.

See?

/sarcasm/


95 posted on 01/28/2021 11:35:16 AM PST by ripley
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To: Eleutheria5
Put everything on gold. Gold stocks, gold mine stocks, gold futures, gold bullion, gold coins. GTF out of wall street. RIOT’s still a good stock, though. So’s REGRF. Blockchain tech.

Put everything on gold, or silver Period. Paper is paper no matter what is printed on it.

96 posted on 01/30/2021 3:17:08 PM PST by itsahoot (Skill to intrepret auto correct is necessary to read my posts, understanding them is another matter.)
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To: Jim Noble
The men who wrote in 1788 "The House shall have the sole power of impeachment" surely knew this.

Couldn't find an old Scottish law huh?

97 posted on 01/30/2021 3:45:22 PM PST by itsahoot (Skill to intrepret auto correct is necessary to read my posts, understanding them is another matter.)
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To: newfreep
Only those communists in power can say what is allowed and "legal".

I think you have a handle on it new.

98 posted on 01/30/2021 3:58:53 PM PST by itsahoot (Skill to intrepret auto correct is necessary to read my posts, understanding them is another matter.)
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To: Timocrat
This is a bill of attainder. Barred by the constitution.

What is this constitution of which you speak?

When there is no law, only the lawless have power.

99 posted on 01/30/2021 4:01:34 PM PST by itsahoot (Skill to intrepret auto correct is necessary to read my posts, understanding them is another matter.)
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To: itsahoot

Paper is still kosher, but only if you have the bulk of your cash in precious metals as insurance, and a shack in the woods full of canned goods and some arable land and some form of livestock, and a shotgun within reach as insurance against metals failing and civilization collapsing.


100 posted on 01/31/2021 12:04:27 AM PST by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all the time. You just have to believe." Will Robinson)
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