Posted on 08/14/2021 3:21:16 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
President Biden on Saturday authorized the deployment of 5,000 troops to Afghanistan amid a U.S. pullout that has emboldened the Taliban to take over multiple cities.
"I have authorized the deployment of approximately 5,000 US troops to make sure we can have an orderly and safe drawdown of US personnel and other allied personnel and an orderly and safe evacuation of Afghans who helped our troops during our mission and those at special risk from the Taliban advance," Biden said in a statement.
“I have ordered our armed forces and our intelligence community to ensure that we will maintain the capability and the vigilance to address future terrorist threats from Afghanistan," he said.
Biden on Saturday warned the Taliban that any actions that put U.S. personnel at risk "will be met with a swift and strong US military response."
The United States will, at the same time, pursue a political settlement to the bloodshed, he said.
Ambassador Tracey Jacobson has been placed in charge of the U.S. effort to relocate Afghan special immigrant visa applicants and other Afghan allies, the president said.
"Our hearts go out to the brave Afghan men and women who are now at risk," he said. "We are working to evacuate thousands of those who helped our cause and their families."
The president's actions came as the Taliban captured Mazar-e-Sharif, a key city in the north of Afghanistan.
The first American troops began what the Pentagon described as a limited mission to evacuate American embassy workers.
They’re not the only ones who should go. Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle, and all the generals who think we should still be sacrificing our troops there should be dropped into the midst of the fighting.
Ah, you are right. Sometimes I am being naive and think they mean what they say.
“The idea is not to kill Afghanis.”
Yes it is. Nuking to wipe out every man, woman, and child of Islam, including what few Christians who are there working for the lord. It is much more than just the Taliban. It is the want of a mass ethnic cleansing.
“Islam wants to kill all of us... So we should kill all of Islam first.”
So it is acceptable to lower ourselves to their same crude ignorant barbaric ideology? And then hypocritically claim it as an example of the more righteous and superior faith? If we are the more righteous faith then we should BE the more righteous faith by example. Make sure THEY are the ones completely wrong by example, not us by thinking exactly the same as they do.
“The Nuke or something to that effect is a staunch warning to never launch terrorist attacks on us again.”
Ok, would this be a precision nuking killing only those who are “guilty”? Because killing even one innocent is “murder” in God’s eyes. Since we know there are elements in most of the middle east should the whole middle east be wiped out for good measure to make sure we get them all?
No matter what justifications and excuses claimed, this is faith on both sides wanting to completely wipe out the other faith. Which makes us no more righteous than them if we think exactly like them.
Seriously... No one sees the irony in this exact same-same like kind example of thought? Wanting to combat against radical ethnic cleansing with radical mass ethnic cleansing?
Are the 10 Commandments now dead and gone? Anyone even care about these anymore? The very origin of all law, “Morality”, and righteousness?
Now I am going to be stoned because I DO BELIEVE in the 10 Commandments first and foremost...
“For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.”
Commandment #6 “You shall not murder”. (Except when we conjure up some excuse for why we should murder???????)
Gods been raising up armies...and yes to wipe out evil since the world began......Apparently you’re of the mindset that thinks if you be nice to people they won’t hurt you or your loved ones.....
I am a horrible human being because I ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT INNOCENT HUMAN LIVES???
Of course not, they are evil radical extremists and “the guilty” should be punished. Fighting a just war is one thing, but wanting to nuke the whole thing is radical extremism no different than theirs.
I am only sharing that I have a problem with wanting to nuke them all, even the innocent. I have even seen folks here say that Ethiopia should just be nuked because there is an Islamic faction there. Ethiopia is over 67.3% CHRISTIAN. Nuke the 70% of innocent Christians to take out the 30% of Islam there? Totally acceptable losses?
Is it even Christian to think such a thing??? Would this be just and righteous? I am pretty sure God says NO it is not ok to think this way.
No because you are judgemental and a hypocrit holier than thou art attitude makes you horrible.
By the way, you are also a liar. I believe the 10 Commandments covers that. I never said Nuke them all. Bye bye liar.
I never accused you directly of this either. Just shared my distaste for the ideology and you defended it. And the conversation all started long before you jumped in.
I am being stoned here because I was actually honest about how I feel and DO NOT lie.
Ok, first I noticed “pro-Bill of Rights”, except for “Freedom of Speech” and “Freedom of Religion”? With all due respect you actually don’t see a “selective” and mixed message with this?
What I am reading in this detailed list from you here is... “You better think exactly the way WE WANT YOU TO THINK or you will be stoned and/or burned at the stake”.
I am not Anti-Christian, every individual absolutely has the Constitutional right to believe what they like. And I WILL back your own right of this with my own life if it comes to it. But what I am against is HYPOCRISY in all forms and sources including from Christianity.
As for the Bible? I am a historian. There are very real and factual sources and timelines concerning by who and when the Bible sections were actually written and translated and edited throughout history. These facts cannot be changed or just ignored away for myself.
I would be lying to myself to do so now that I understand this factual knowledge.
I am not proposing to wipe out the Afghan People. I think a nice parting shot to serve to them a reminder nice to attack our country again or that we will deal with them harshly.
Ok, first I noticed
***First thing I noticed was the first thing he said. Interesting how that doesn’t jump right out at you.
“pro-Bill of Rights”, except for “Freedom of Speech” and “Freedom of Religion”?
***Uhh, where do you see that?
With all due respect you actually don’t see a “selective” and mixed message with this?
***YES, it is selective. It is selectively PRO-GOD. You are selectively ANTI-GOD. That makes you a FReeping troll. If anything, coming from where you’re coming from, you should be extra polite and extra kind towards those you disagree with because you disagree with the most central tenets of why we’re here in the first place. But that probably escapes you.
What I am reading in this detailed list from you
***This is from the FOUNDER. You don’t seem to get much right.
here is... “You better think exactly the way WE WANT YOU TO THINK or you will be stoned and/or burned at the stake”.
***Does it say that? NO. Did I say that? NO. Do you operate in the exact opposite manner of what that list highlights? YES. Does that make you a troll? YES.
I am not Anti-Christian,
***Matthew 12:30
“Anyone who isn’t with me opposes me, and anyone who isn’t working with me is actually working against me. .
every individual absolutely has the Constitutional right to believe what they like.
***Yes, agreed. But you are here as a guest. You do not have an absolute right to be here, especially when your own beliefs are an anathema to the founder’s and a large majority of FReepers.
And I WILL back your own right of this with my own life if it comes to it. But what I am against is HYPOCRISY in all forms and sources including from Christianity.
***I am one of the few who welcomes people pointing out hypocrisy within christianity. But I notice a gigantic difference of people criticizing from within the faith versus those criticizing from outside the faith. The inside critic wants to build up christianity; the outsiders want to tear it down.
As for the Bible? I am a historian.
***So am I. And so was the eminent historian FF Bruce. I suggest you read his free online book “The New Testament Documents: Are They Historical?” Because your position is incredibly hostile to known history and it makes you an antichristian bigot operating on a Pro-GOD website.
https://www.cob-net.org/compare/nt-documents-reliable-bruce.pdf
There are very real and factual sources and timelines concerning by who and when the Bible sections were actually written and translated and edited throughout history.
***Yes and the vast majority of HISTORIANS agree with guys like FF Bruce. So you’re pushing a fringe theory as well.
These facts cannot be changed or just ignored away for myself.
***You are doing your utmost to change the historical facts. You’re lying to yourself. Read the book. We can have a debate about it LINE BY LINE if you are honest about what you just wrote.
I would be lying to myself to do so now that I understand this factual knowledge.
***Then come up to speed on those facts and quit being an antichristian bigot on a pro-christian website [which by anyone’s definition makes you a troll].
What I am reading in this detailed list from you here is... “You better think exactly the way WE WANT YOU TO THINK or you will be stoned and/or burned at the stake”.
***I count several fallacies here. The list is from the founder, not me. You argue against a hyperbolic religious-imagery exaggeration of what it says, so there’s that fallacy. And you argue against a straw version of what it says so you’re using straw argumentation. It would seem obvious that your entire approach to this subject matter of the historicity of the bible and Christ would be filled with such fallacious reasoning.
You just twisted the whole thing into some kind illogical irrational bigoted radical extremist hate rampage.
Honestly... it is a bit scary... So the rule is, to participate here even as the very strong moral conservative that I am...
I must absolutely be a Christian “new earther” of the proper approved sect. Which one? Mormonism allowed? No... Catholicism allowed? No..., Lutheranism allowed? No... , Hebrew allowed? No... Ethiopian Orthodox allowed? No...
Someone here hates at least one of these with a passion...
What are your exact approval parameters? “Just shut up and believe what I tell you to believe or you are troll?”.
You do not see that this is the pot calling the kettle black? This is the exact same ideology and restrictive and oppressive parameters Islam practices.
““pro-Bill of Rights”, except for “Freedom of Speech” and “Freedom of Religion”?
***Uhh, where do you see that?”
RIGHT IN YOUR OWN POST! “pro-Constitution, Pro-Bill of rights”...
Obviously though only “Approved” Free Speech and “Approved” Freedom of Religion. Of course I am just a guest, but I’m going to tell you what... If I am being told to kiss ass, get on my knees, and believe what you want me to believe and not have any right at all to believe what I want to believe you are out of line.
“One way... My way... Or hit the highway...” It is something I would NEVER put in your face because I am moral. Obviously more moral, respectful, and tolerant towards the beliefs of others than you are.
You just twisted the whole thing into some kind illogical irrational bigoted radical extremist hate rampage.
***You’re the antichristian bigot using logical fallacies.
Honestly... it is a bit scary... So the rule is,
***Where does it say there’s a rule?
to participate here even as the very strong moral conservative that I am...
***I really doubt the strong moral pinnings of your supposed conservatism.
I must absolutely be a Christian “new earther”
***Absolutely? Your word. Straw argument. “new earther”? What is that? Now you’re arguing against bullshiite that hasn’t even been brought up.
of the proper approved sect.
***Sect? Straw argument. Do you know how to argue any other way other than draw down fallacies? FR is Pro-God and you aint.
Which one? Mormonism allowed? No... Catholicism allowed? No..., Lutheranism allowed? No... , Hebrew allowed? No... Ethiopian Orthodox allowed? No...
***Now you’re trying to throw out red herrings in an attempt at deflection. Yet another fallacy argument.
Someone here hates at least one of these with a passion...
***Side issue, straw argument, and none of your bizness as you try your best to deflect.
What are your exact approval parameters?
***Why do you ask ME? You should be asking JimRob because you’re operating on HIS website.
“Just shut up and believe what I tell you to believe or you are troll?”.
***Again a straw argument. You are obviously not a believer. You don’t argue against it when I call you Anti-God on a Pro-God website. You’re simply a troll.
You do not see that this is the pot calling the kettle black?
***No. JimRob says this place is Pro-God, you are ANTI-God, and that’s that. JimRob is calling your kettle black. Or do you pretend to accuse him of unbelief in God?
This is the exact same ideology and restrictive and oppressive parameters Islam practices.
***Again a deflection. This is about the christian God and you know it.
ClosedMind:““pro-Bill of Rights”, except for “Freedom of Speech” and “Freedom of Religion”?
Kevmo***Uhh, where do you see that?”
ClosedMind:RIGHT IN YOUR OWN POST! “pro-Constitution, Pro-Bill of rights”...
***Yeah, pro constitution is there. Pro BOR is there. But NOT *except for “Freedom of Speech” and “Freedom of Religion”?* it aint there.
Obviously though only “Approved” Free Speech and “Approved” Freedom of Religion.
***Again, where does it say that? You seem to have a real problem with it, so it SHOULD be saying it somewhere.
Of course I am just a guest, but I’m going to tell you what... If I am being told to kiss ass, get on my knees,
***You are an anti-God troll operating on a Pro-God website.
and believe what you want me to believe
***You are not being told to believe what I want you to believe. Yet another straw argument. You are being told that you are operating as an anti-God troll on a Pro-God website.
and not have any right at all to believe what I want to believe
***Like I said, I did not say this so you’re employing, yet again, a straw argument.
you are out of line.
***You are the one who is out of line, acting as an anti-God troll on this pro-God website.
“One way... My way... Or hit the highway...”
***It is JimRob’s way. You seem to have a serious problem with it.
It is something I would NEVER put in your face because I am moral.
***I doubt your morality, because it aint based on God. Besides, this is kind of a nonsense statement, a nonsequitur, yet another logical fallacy.
Obviously more moral, respectful, and tolerant towards the beliefs of others than you are.
***Was Jesus moral? Yes. Was Jesus respectful? Yes. Was He tolerant towards the beliefs of others? Not really. He said things like “I and the Father are One. No one comes to the Father but through Me.” Not very tolerant. He tells us believers to follow His example so that’s what I’m doing.
Go read my posting history before you judge me any further... At this point you are trying to pull a Rabbit out of your hat and paint me with a brush that is very very mistaken.
I think you apply a Humpty Dumpty definition to your conservatism when in reality, you are acting as an anti-God troll on a Pro-God website. Feel free to have a throwdown over historicity.
Holy cow... Are you sure you are not a liberal female? That has GOT to be the most fantastic example of “micromanagement” I have ever seen. How you spun my stance 180 degrees from the truth just like liberal was amazing.
So? You think you are smart enough to bait me into loosing my cool and step on my own toes? Not going to happen. You just do not have the intelligence level to do this. I am an old hand at this. Even owned several domain forums and am currently partners in a very good “Christian” conservative free speech domain forum right now.
But the Christians in our site are honest, righteous, and not hypocritical. I never said I was against God. You are painting me with the wrong color there. I said I was against hypocritical followers who claim self righteousness yet still practice the faith hypocritically, dishonestly, and misguided.
Ok... So how about I put the question to Jim and the community. That it has been explained to me that it is a mandatory prerequisite that you absolutely have to be a Bible thumping Christian to be a member here, post here, Or donate to here. If not you are troll and not wanted and to leave...
You good with me referencing to our conversation here that you twisted with dishonest hypocritical self righteousness? Where you put words in both my mouth and their mouths without their permission? Where does it say “You have to believe in my sect of Christianity or you are not welcome”???
We need to clarify this concept. And those who donate but are not self righteous Bible thumpers need to know so that that their participation and donations are not wanted here or appreciated anymore.
Off to compose a post, and “Buy” a vanity post... This needs to be clarified and brought up front right now if this is the case you claim with self authority... So time to ask Jim up front and find out if he only wants white Puritan Christians to participate here. And all others should just take a hike...
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