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1 posted on 10/14/2021 8:31:53 AM PDT by veracious
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To: veracious

You are absolutely right on! When the war comes, and it will, it will not be a second civil war; it will be a second revolutionary war.


2 posted on 10/14/2021 8:36:14 AM PDT by eeriegeno (Checks and balances??? What checks and balances?)
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Well done. You cut straight through that Gordian knot and got to the heart of the matter.


3 posted on 10/14/2021 8:38:30 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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back in the day the people were far better educated than today. The all had guns and had used them hunting and defending against Tribal raiders as well as red coats.

Now we have a populace that can’t find their own state circled in red on a map, can’t figure out which country they live in (America or the United States), whose familiarity with guns is mostly a movie experience and the rest, except for a very small minority, have never shot at anyone in anger.

And you want those people to throw a revolution?


7 posted on 10/14/2021 8:50:45 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Keep pushing us Left, globalist libertarians, by taking up unpopular causes that people reliably vote against and continually defecating on the populist vote. Keep on making all elections about lesser evils and I guess you’ll find out!


9 posted on 10/14/2021 8:57:27 AM PDT by BlackAdderess
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And mad Joe Biden and his tyrannical functionaries is the modern parallel of the Mad King George and his tyrannical functionaries running a working colonial empire into the ground through incompetence and self-dealing


10 posted on 10/14/2021 9:05:41 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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I find it highly unlikely any second revolution will happen.

The case of our founding fathers is that the colonies were self governing for nearly two hundred years before British Parliament started passing taxation laws to refill their bankrupt coffers due to their costly wars in Europe which effectively bankrupted the Empire. The colonists were used to paying virtually no tax, then overnight - boom - Stamp Act. This added an unprecedented (and actually low) tax on the movement of all goods to and from the colonies and the British Empire. The colonists wanted a say in the passage of this and further new taxes, to which the representation issue arose. Those in the educated land owning stratum in the colonies were also benefactors of the new enlightenment movement of liberal thought (liberal as in liberty) which was almost diametrically opposed to the oppression of Aristocratic Feudalism. The tensions between the colonists and Britain increased after Britain sent troops to enact martial law after protests and riots broke out in Boston and New York. This resulted in colonists being forced to board British soldiers in their homes and in the confiscation of colonists weapons and other property deemed contraband by the Empire. Couple this with false imprisonment without trial of any colonist remotely suspected of rebellious tendencies, the tensions finally came to a boil and overflowed at Concord.

So what the heck is my point, you ask? It took 10+ years and numerous escalating actions infringing on colonists' freedoms to finally convince a third of the population to form militias. Once those militias were formed, almost any provocation from the Empire would result in a revolution. The Stamp Act was just the first of many insults to the colonies traditional liberties that fomented the revolution.

So how does this apply today? Let me ask the following questions:

Some of the above are true today, however it took violations of all the above to foment the revolution. We are too comfortable, complacent, fat, rich, and happy (relatively) to convince enough people to risk dying in defense of freedom; It also required all of these violations to be imposed rather quickly to foment war.

We are the frog boiling in the pot. Slow and steady, we shed away a liberty at a time until it is too late. At our present course, I foresee a Venezuela situation at the best, a Somalia situation at the worst for us. A complete collapse of society and everyone organizes into a tribe to fight the other tribes.

How do we stop it? It may well be too late, however the best course of action right now is to change the Republican party back to conservative roots – preserving and protecting individual liberties and God given rights. Get the “looter” (see Frédéric Bastiat) RINOs out of the party! Find your local party committee and join or volunteer. If one doesn’t exist, start one. If you’re not in a party and believe in Conservatism, join the Republican party. It is not enough to just donate to the party – join with it and work to change it.

Complacency and inaction is the death of liberty.

12 posted on 10/14/2021 10:03:41 AM PDT by Intar
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