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OPINION - Donald Trump can’t come back from his grotesque praise for ‘genius’ tyrant Vladimir Putin
evening std ^ | 3/16/22 | Sarah Baxter

Posted on 03/16/2022 5:39:06 AM PDT by central_va

Come on, Republicans, it is time to dump Trump. You know it. Even members of his Make America Great Again fan club know it. Somebody has to summon up the courage to tell the former US president that he is no longer the man of the hour — and that he must give up his vengeful drive to regain power.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1dumbnevertrumper; 1howsmart; 2isthat; cantcomeback; centralvagina; dump; genius; grotesquepraise; sarahbaxter; trump
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To: DoodleDawg
Right or wrong, better or worse, I think that Putin expected Trump to be reelected in 2020. Europe and NATO have proven to be more united and more opposed to the invasion than Putin anticipated. Given Trump's opposition to NATO, his acrimonious relationship with most European leaders, his poor relationship with the Ukraine, and his good relationship with Putin himself I think Putin thought his chances of success would be better under a second Trump administration. Again, it may well be a major miscalculation on Putin's part but I believe that was behind his decision.

I have seen others post the claim that in a meeting with Putin, Trump told him that "If you invade Ukraine, I will bomb Moscow."

I don't know if this is true but others posting on this website have said this happened.

It sounds like something Trump could have done.

121 posted on 03/16/2022 7:17:48 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: central_va

Another so-called urinalist born ignorant and practiced to complete stupidity.


122 posted on 03/16/2022 7:17:49 AM PDT by JayAr36 (Just watching the demise of America.)
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To: central_va
Trump can't even fill a parking lot for a campaign event.

No wait, that was Joe Biden.


123 posted on 03/16/2022 7:19:31 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (We are living in 1984. We have always been living in 1984.)
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To: poinq
It was never about Trump. It has always been about Trump’s enemies. He has the best enemies. Everyone we hate is against Trump. In every sector, those who are politically depraved hate Trump. What could be a better endorsement.

Well said.

124 posted on 03/16/2022 7:21:50 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: BiglyCommentary

Misleading. Trump said that when it was thought Putin was just going to send in “peacekeepers” to the two breakaway regions. That would have been very smart, getting what he wants with little blowback.


Yes, excellent point and putin did that in response to biden’s minor excursion comment


125 posted on 03/16/2022 7:22:54 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: Flavious_Maximus
The vengeful part is one of the main reasons I want Trump back in. He will take of what needs to be “done” the second time around.

Exactly. This nation very badly needs vengeance upon the people who cheated our election system, as well as the deep state and backstabbing Republicans who went along with it.

126 posted on 03/16/2022 7:23:20 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: BitWielder1

For those of us who understood what Trump said and meant and why, this is not a problem.
For the Left who always misconstrue what Trump says and assign nefarious motives to him, it will always be a problem.


Yes, the LEFT is not stupid. They always intentionally misrepresent to make Trump look bad.


127 posted on 03/16/2022 7:33:13 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: Robert DeLong
Kind of hard to believe the lying press on any given topic, as they spout propaganda more than they, if ever, spout truth

The corporate media is comprised of nothing but LIARS. Thank goodness we have the internet and can with a little work find credible sources.

128 posted on 03/16/2022 7:37:34 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: FlipWilson

I don’t know if he really said that Putin was a genius, maybe it’s just anti-Trump rhetoric, but if so, you have to analyze the context in which it was said. geniuses are not necessarily always good


129 posted on 03/16/2022 7:39:01 AM PDT by californian by choice
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To: DiogenesLamp
I have seen others post the claim that in a meeting with Putin, Trump told him that "If you invade Ukraine, I will bomb Moscow."

Your sources continue to be anonymous and amusing, when they don't appear to be nothing but your opinion to begin with.

130 posted on 03/16/2022 7:45:42 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Washington is correct in a way but in this instance he allowed emotion to supersede his normally excellent insight on human nature.

Factions or parties are something humans do when there is an issue of mutual interest that motivates them. There is NO escaping it! In fact some cultures are particular prone to it. For example the old joke “If you have three Jews you have five political parties!”.

Our system basically breaks (and I don't mean breaks down!) out politically along one fault line - Centralized government vs Decentralized government. It doesn't matter what the parties are currently called now but they battle over that issue. In fact the Rats were once the party of decentralization and the GOP the party of increasing federal power that has more or less switched. Third, 4th & 5th, etc parties always form around a single issue. If the issue is meaningful in any way to the electorate it gets absorbed into one of the two dominate parties. The fringe party then fades into obscurity. For example the GOP with the help of the Civil War absorbed the Whig party. Historically it has always worked that way.

No sooner was Washington in office it started happening - Federalists vs Anti-federalists. They didn't quite call themselves that then but within 10 years they pretty much did. (And historians do now!) Federalists - Washington's faction even though he would likely deny he is a member of it. These factions\parties consisted of those who were supporters of a strong centralized government. Hamilton the most famous of that group. (There are others you can look those up!). Jefferson the obvious example of the anti-federalist group. Every political issue since then eventually devolves down to the question of how much does the federal government get involved in the states and its citizen's lives. The Civil War is the most noted example of that issue where it couldn't be resolved except by violence - and some of those states rights-vs Federal powers issues still aren't resolved. The Great Depression is another example of the Federal Government imposing centralized solutions - bad solutions. Other examples of Federal centralized power expanding at the states expense is the 16th and 17th amendments. I view the 17th amendment as the more damaging of the two. It took the states out of the role of directly influencing federal policy. Turned the Senator into a “Congresscritter-at-Large” his\her states interests took a much lower priority, the highest priority was returning to office. This made the senator far far more receptive to national party politics. Why she\he needed the money streams for reelection from the national party.

There is no way of preventing political parties/factions from forming. Like I said in the first paragraph its human nature. Do you want to pass a law forbidding this act of "freedom-of-assembly\association"? Hasn't "freedom-of-assembly\association" been abused\curtailed enough by feel good civil rights legislation is the last 60 years? Somehow forcing mutiple parties onto our system will do nothing more then fragment politics further and cause even more rancor and stagnation. I admit sometimes poltical stagnation is appropriate but not as a first choice.

Multiparty system work “best” (and its a qualified “best”!) in a parliamentary system. Ours is NOT a parliamentary system! Our system is a sort of “winner-take-all” executive system and made that way by the Constitution.

A multiparty system here would mean some form of coalition politcss in the national and state legislatures. However unlike parliamentary systems elsewhere you would have no way of incentivising your coalition with national\state ministries to run. In the UK the PM (an MP elected only from his bourough & not the nation!) hands out ministries like defense, exchequer, foreign office, etc to other MPs and\or party honchos. That all sounds pretty self-centered if not a bit corrupt. However that's how it works there. I don't see it as an improvement. It's not going to change unless the Constitution is radically changed. I don't want that!

131 posted on 03/16/2022 7:56:17 AM PDT by Reily
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To: central_va

and who are you again??? feh...


132 posted on 03/16/2022 8:00:25 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: central_va

Praise? This old cannard is still kicking around? By comparing Biden to Putin we see a child like man ,looking like a deer in the headlight vs. a brutal strongman with a knack for playing Biden and his cohorts like fiddle.

This is the point Trump was making. Dont worry, last I checked the nomination is his if he wants it.... theres nothing to come back from...the democrats are clueless , its becoming more obvious...daily... even liberals cant figure it out.


133 posted on 03/16/2022 8:17:58 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: FlipWilson

She has a whole herd of Unicorns in her living room.


134 posted on 03/16/2022 8:19:30 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Thunder90

Knowing whom your enemy is is also smart.

Putin is smart——but not very moral or ethical.


135 posted on 03/16/2022 8:21:08 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: central_va

She’s whistling past the graveyard she saw the democrat party head stone and open grave.


136 posted on 03/16/2022 8:28:30 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: DoodleDawg

Putin and Trump would’ve come to some kind of agreement and deal that would’ve taken into account all the corruption going on in Ukraine plus the issues that food and head that were valid regarding the Russian people in Ukraine an Ukraine threatening to join NATO. No way they would’ve been a war if Trump had been in power


137 posted on 03/16/2022 8:30:13 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

Maybe. Maybe not. We’ll never know.


138 posted on 03/16/2022 8:44:23 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: central_va

MAGA !!!


139 posted on 03/16/2022 8:56:59 AM PDT by Pearfect (t)
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To: central_va

I don’t think so Sarah. Trump knows that Putin is just playing his part in getting rid of the NWO. We can’t very well invade the Ukraine. Its going to be hard enough drumming up the pretext when we go into Israel to clean the NWO out of there.


140 posted on 03/16/2022 9:46:42 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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