Posted on 03/19/2022 4:21:21 PM PDT by joesbucks
WSJ article on Ivermectin study
(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...
Yes, I took it immediately.
A couple in my neighborhood had it two weeks earlier.
So, I knew what to take, and what to look for.
Thank you, very glad you fared well, Bless you & family.
If that is accurate, the study is not credible.
There seem to be no links to the actual study, just comments from people on what the study supposedly says.
What a bad joke.
Agreed.
Lies lies and more lies.
This reminds me of the studies of hyrdoxychloroquine that appeared to require that HCQ be given to the patient only after last rites had been administered.
It works. I trust India's testing more than I do many Western studies. India was not murdering the elderly to control the country, so I trust them more than I do the WP, who supported the left in their illegal activities. Plus I took it and was cured in less than 5 days, my wife took it and she was cured in less than 3.
The Undeniable Ivermectin Miracle in India’s 240m Populated Largest State, Uttar Pradesh
Uttar Pradesh might sound obscure to most Americans, but it is the most populated state in India, with urban areas that rival the most densely populated cities in the U.S. Yet, miraculously, despite housing a population of 240 million people, this northern state has been averaging only 24 cases and 0-2 deaths per day in recent months. Despite its size — roughly 73% of the U.S. population — it ranked dead last in cases per capita last week among India’s 36 states. What gives?
The northern India state of Uttar Pradesh began dispensing ivermectin liberally and encouraging people to take it early on and even preventively. As Trial Site News reported earlier this year, “By the end of 2020, Uttar Pradesh — which distributed free ivermectin for home care — had the second-lowest fatality rate in India at 0.26 per 100,000 residents in December. Only the state of Bihar, with 128 million residents, was lower, and it, too, recommends ivermectin.
It works. I trust India's testing more than I do many Western studies. India was not murdering the elderly to control the country, so I trust them more than I do the WP, who supported the left in their illegal activities. Plus I took it and was cured in less than 5 days, my wife took it and she was cured in less than 3.
The Undeniable Ivermectin Miracle in India’s 240m Populated Largest State, Uttar Pradesh
Uttar Pradesh might sound obscure to most Americans, but it is the most populated state in India, with urban areas that rival the most densely populated cities in the U.S. Yet, miraculously, despite housing a population of 240 million people, this northern state has been averaging only 24 cases and 0-2 deaths per day in recent months. Despite its size — roughly 73% of the U.S. population — it ranked dead last in cases per capita last week among India’s 36 states. What gives?
The northern India state of Uttar Pradesh began dispensing ivermectin liberally and encouraging people to take it early on and even preventively. As Trial Site News reported earlier this year, “By the end of 2020, Uttar Pradesh — which distributed free ivermectin for home care — had the second-lowest fatality rate in India at 0.26 per 100,000 residents in December. Only the state of Bihar, with 128 million residents, was lower, and it, too, recommends ivermectin.
It works. I trust India's testing more than I do many Western studies. India was not murdering the elderly to control the country, so I trust them more than I do the WP, who supported the left in their illegal activities. Plus I took it and was cured in less than 5 days, my wife took it and she was cured in less than 3.
The Undeniable Ivermectin Miracle in India’s 240m Populated Largest State, Uttar Pradesh
Uttar Pradesh might sound obscure to most Americans, but it is the most populated state in India, with urban areas that rival the most densely populated cities in the U.S. Yet, miraculously, despite housing a population of 240 million people, this northern state has been averaging only 24 cases and 0-2 deaths per day in recent months. Despite its size — roughly 73% of the U.S. population — it ranked dead last in cases per capita last week among India’s 36 states. What gives?
The northern India state of Uttar Pradesh began dispensing ivermectin liberally and encouraging people to take it early on and even preventively. As Trial Site News reported earlier this year, “By the end of 2020, Uttar Pradesh — which distributed free ivermectin for home care — had the second-lowest fatality rate in India at 0.26 per 100,000 residents in December. Only the state of Bihar, with 128 million residents, was lower, and it, too, recommends ivermectin.
Bkmk
I am sure you will be able to read the article when it is published and you will find it is accurate what I have said. Like I said it is not perfect hu any stretch. But it is worth noting the results.
I took it and got better in 2 days. Friends had it at same time were ill a week or more. I did get a bit tired at end of day for about a week but otherwise I was okay
Does it seem like they are trying to cover up that the last 2 years of their totally destructive 🐂💨💩 were unnecessary?
How much pain, suffering, and death, could have been avoided if they "allowed" early treatments with these reasonably priced drugs?
Your emotion demonstrates your inability to be objective on this issue. I did not do the study at hand. I have read it and critiqued it. As I said, the methodology leaves some room for debate, but it is the largest prospective study this far. You are welcome to review my commentary and tell me what is incorrect about my critique.
As for you and your wife. I am glad you did well. But there are a lot of questions to substantiate your assertion that ivermectin cured you within 5 and 3 days respectively. The objective questions would be:
1. When did you have covid. This would allows us a reasonable guess as to what strain you had
2. Would you be considered at high risk for progression or are you like as some have stated you are likely to survive the disease regardless of treatment. It is entirely possible this ran its course despite any treatment.
3. As for the India statements you cannot make a definitive statement as to what caused the lowered death rate if in fact that is an accurate statement. The India data as observation may be supportive of your hypothesis but does not accurately control for the statement that ivermectin is the reason why. Incidentally there was extensive commentary around this when it was reported several months ago. Please review the objective discussion around it.
4. The study at hand is the first large prospective study to be accepted. Again I am not sure why you say I am wrong I am merely critiquing the study
Taken in its aggregate and ignoring raw emotion and political bull crap the evidence for each study that someone shouts definitely proves the usefulness there are opposing studies that demonstrate just the opposite. Divergent findings in multiple studies tends to point out that the evidence is weak in either direction
Based on the strength of the prospective data and the lack of agreement among previous retrospective reports or observational reports, one simply cannot conclude in either direction anything strongly definitive.
This is why I judge the evidence to be weak (2C recommendation level) that would say ivermectin is possibly helpful and likely not harmful. This is a far cry from class 1 A-C recommendations which would be based on strong evidence. The data also certainly do not rise to the level of best practices.
So in the middle of all the infighting and politicization of the issue l, the actual science is lost. Because the data are weak (again I classify it in my judgment as weak data demonstrating possibly helpful not harmful) why would I use this level of therapy when there is clearly strong evidence that monoclonal therapies are helpful and demonstrate a clear improvement in the endpoint of reducing progression to severe disease and hospitalization. I have never stated that someone should not be able to prescribe ivermectin if they are of the belief it is helpful. I do think , however, the data demonstrate superiority of monoclonal therapy to any other repurposed or off label medications. The reason why is because monoclonal therapy specifically target corona virus while the other treatments do not.
So… having read your relatively long explanation of your position I have one question for you:
Given the choice between ivermectin or monoclonal antibodies, which would you choose for yourself of your loved ones? When confronted with the same decision, I advocated for monoclonals for my loved ones. And they all did very well. In one case of a loved one of mine, ivermectin failed and the disease was progressing quickly — the monoclonals stopped it and this person is still alive today as a function of the monoclonals. And yes this person had adequate ivermectin dosing.
“I knocked out a bad case of the Red China virus in 24 hours.”
Me, too. I actually could tell I was feeling better just 18 hours after the first dose. Six hours after that it was pretty much gone.
I know of three, very close to me that went on the protocol and by the morning of Day 3, we’re feeling as good as they ever had.
That being said, with regards as to how soon one should take it. Early is better. But…..
This 80yr old was left for dead until her family and a judge swooped in to save her.
Doctors all over the country have been using it, successfully, since the beginning. They had to do it on the low-low because of Fauci. Still works
But why is anyone worried anymore? Russia invading Ukraine has wiped it out.
Already knew this.
Saw some news dude say it on TV.
That is what I figured.
From the story where the boy cried wolf I can sympathize with the villagers who stopped responding to the call. It costs the villagers time and effort to check if there really is a wolf. Or to read a study from an institutional system that has been deceitful about Ivermectin. This is not the fault of the villagers that they guessed there was really no wolf.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.