[jimwatx]

“Excluding Scott Ritter or Gonzalo Lira who are just making things up.”

There’s propaganda coming from both sides, but from what I’ve seen, there’s way more of it coming from the pro-Ukraine side. And why would Lloyd Austin call for Russia-Ukraine cease-fire in talk with Sergei Shoigu if Ukraine was winning it? Sorry not buying it.

https://nypost.com/2022/05/13/lloyd-austin-wants-russia-ukraine-ceasefire-in-sergei-shoigu-call/

[kiryandil]

And why would Lloyd Austin call for Russia-Ukraine cease-fire in talk with Sergei Shoigu if Ukraine was winning it? Sorry not buying it.

Not our circus, and only one of our monkeys...

[Widget Jr]

#13. Because the U.S., Europe and Ukraine want the war to end. The current Ukrainian counter offensive and Russian retreat and repositioning is putting pressure on Moscow. That's why.

The question of why Austin called Shoigu unless Ukraine is losing comes from Gonzalo Lira. Before considering him credible, look into his background. His fifteen minutes are almost up.

[Karl Spooner]

Yeah, there is a ring of truth in what Lira says about it. Here is why Ukraine and "friends" lie so much.