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I was of the understanding that all nukes in the Ukraine were returned to Russia long ago?…


8 posted on 10/04/2022 9:19:46 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

The US has nukes they can use for a false flag attack.


11 posted on 10/04/2022 9:27:13 AM PDT by Honcho Bongs (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. - Churchill)
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To: EEGator

Why should the fact that Ukraine Gave up its nukes many years ago interfere with the anti Ukrainian and pro Russian fantasies of the idiots who post here?

You have Ukraine under attack and decimated by a superpower but they fought heroically and heroically and the Russians are idiots so the war has gone badly for Russia.

Now the lunatic thug psychotic in the Kremlin, and I am not exaggerating to call Putin those things, is further threatening the safety of the entire world with with crazy nuclear diatribe.

And kooks here still blame the United States or think there will be a nuclear war over homosexuality, or something else ridiculous.


12 posted on 10/04/2022 9:28:33 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: EEGator

They may have made new ones since then.


23 posted on 10/04/2022 9:47:04 AM PDT by TreasonObserver
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To: EEGator; es345st

It is nigh on impossible to hide a nuke for 30 years in a country like Ukraine.

Despite what Hollywood might think, those things have a habit of giving off radioactive signatures and sticking one in the X-ray department of a hospital doesn’t actually provide plausible cover.

No, the far more likely scenario is a Chechen/Ukrainian team up gets into Russian territory, hits a mobile launch facility, and takes out Putin’s lake side palace.

Kyiv shrugs and says “Your territory, your nuke, your palace... you nuked yourself.”

@es345st - it’s got nothing to do with “peacefully”. Russia wants a way out that gives it all the goodies, lets Putin not so much save face as celebrate a total victory, re-empowers the Moscow totalitarian elite that’s been bumping off any independent minded rich folk for the last six months, and rips up every single agreement Russia made with its ex-Soviet neighbors going all the way back to 1988 when under Glasnost and Perestroika, the Supreme Soviet devolved powers to the republics and finally allowed them to develop their own identities.

Ukraine should not capitulate a square inch of its land to Russia, under any circumstances, without consenting to it via a completely free and fair, constitutional and internationally monitored referendum.

Anything less is not going to establish a lasting peace, it will merely create a ceasefire before an even bigger conflict.

The minute Ukraine surrenders territory that was guaranteed to it by Russia and the other SSRs over thirty years ago, every other former Soviet Socialist Republic (whether under the NATO umbrella or not) becomes fair game for Russian annexation. If it’s legal for Russia (or anyone else) to do it to Ukraine, it was legal for Russia (or anyone else) to do it in Georgia and Chechnya, and it’ll be legal for Russia (or anyone else) to do it to other former SSRs in the future.

In the east, that new reality will create a fight between Russia and China over who controls which former SSR in Asian territory.

In the west, NATO Article 5 WILL be triggered.

A short term peace in Ukraine, designed entirely to spare Putin’s blushes, GUARANTEES a world war.

Russia getting its arse handed to it, royally, might actually avert that.


36 posted on 10/04/2022 10:07:36 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: EEGator

Except for a few that were lying around.


48 posted on 10/04/2022 10:35:59 AM PDT by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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