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How A British Submarine Spent Hours Under A Russian Aircraft Carrier
The Drive / The WarZone ^ | 1/11/23 | MATUS SMUTNY

Posted on 01/14/2023 11:56:03 AM PST by MAGA2017

A Cold War British nuclear sub sneaked into a Soviet naval exercise and took closeup underwater pictures of Russia’s new aircraft carrier.

n 1977, with the Cold War in full swing, the U.K. Royal Navy’s nuclear-powered attack submarine HMS Swiftsure (S-126) slipped right into the heart of a large-scale Soviet Northern Fleet exercise in the Barents Sea. The British submarine penetrated undetected through the layered escort screens of destroyers and frigates and meticulously approached the Russian aircraft carrier Kiev. The submarine recorded extremely valuable acoustic signatures and took incredible underwater periscope pictures of the Soviet carrier’s hull and propellers. As an example of a perfect covert operation, the Soviet Navy had absolutely no idea about the presence of the NATO attack submarine and the amount of valuable data it was able to collect.

The origins of the Swiftsure class of nuclear submarine can be traced back to the mid-1960s. At the time, the Royal Navy was facing the growing threat of nuclear-powered and nuclear-armed Soviet submarines routinely operating in the Atlantic Ocean. To counter these, the Swiftsure included improvements based on the lessons learned from previous all-British-designed classes, allowing for deeper diving, higher speeds, and lower radiated noise.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aircraftcarrier; russia; submarine
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To: TexasGator

“Limited to 400’ depth and still got under our carrier undetected. But that was 50 years ago.”

Undetected till we fired a flare over their deck.


21 posted on 01/14/2023 12:55:42 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: SubVet72

“All I can say is I was never there doing what we never did.”

I can say I was there doing what we did.


22 posted on 01/14/2023 12:57:22 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: SubVet72

“Reminds me of a NATO exercise back in 72.”

I was out of Hawaii.


23 posted on 01/14/2023 12:59:17 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: SubVet72

Oceanographic research in the North Atlantic. That is my story and I am sticking to it. ;-)


24 posted on 01/14/2023 1:00:10 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: MAGA2017

Job well done, rumor has it we, with our USN fast attacks have done the very same thing on multiple occasions. Huzzah!


25 posted on 01/14/2023 1:03:43 PM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: MAGA2017

Russia doesn’t have aircraft carriers.

Realizing that large surface ships have been made effectively obsolete by the deployment of advanced anti-ship missiles, both supersonic and hypersonic, the Russian Navy made a decision to build smaller vessels that would have the capability to deploy the aforementioned advanced missiles and thus jeopardize much larger hostile capital ships such as aircraft carriers. These are especially relied on by NATO, primarily the US...

https://infobrics.org/post/37501/

The USSR did but they ceased to exist in 1991.

A lot of freepers operate from very outdated roadmaps.


26 posted on 01/14/2023 1:04:32 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: TexasGator
This was published in a BBC documentary in 2013!

...titled "Silent War - Battles Beneath the Sea."

27 posted on 01/14/2023 1:13:57 PM PST by matt1234
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To: MarMema

The Soviet MoD is always present on these threads. You never served in our military like so many of us have.

Pleasure yourself.


28 posted on 01/14/2023 1:17:31 PM PST by datura (Eventually, the Lord and the Truth will win.)
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To: MarMema

“Realizing that large surface ships have been made effectively obsolete by the deployment of advanced anti-ship missiles, both supersonic and hypersonic, “

We use aircraft carriers to expand our arena of influence. They are very effective in that role.


29 posted on 01/14/2023 1:19:05 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: MarMema

You might want to look up the Admiral Kuznetsov, genius.


30 posted on 01/14/2023 1:23:08 PM PST by datura (Eventually, the Lord and the Truth will win.)
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To: MAGA2017

And now, Russia doesn’t have any aircraft carriers.


31 posted on 01/14/2023 2:45:39 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: datura

Yes. Russia wanted to repair it, but...

“Admiral Kuznetsov” Aircraft Carrier and “Admiral Nakhimov” Nuclear-Powered Cruiser of russian Fleet Are Done For – Even Without Ukraine’s “Help”
https://en.defence-ua.com/industries/admiral_kuznetsov_aircraft_carrier_and_admiral_nakhimov_nuclear_powered_cruiser_of_russian_fleet_are_done_for_even_without_ukraines_help-5371.html


32 posted on 01/14/2023 2:57:57 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: MarMema
"Russia doesn’t have aircraft carriers...."

They have one but it's in drydock for upgrades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_aircraft_carrier_Admiral_Kuznetsov

33 posted on 01/14/2023 3:10:00 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: MAGA2017

Can you imagine being a Soviet sailor taking a leake over the side and see a periscope watching you piss?


34 posted on 01/14/2023 3:15:12 PM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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To: MarMema

It does, but is laid up for repairs.


35 posted on 01/14/2023 3:17:03 PM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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To: SubMareener

All those classified papers out in the open... ..I haven’t seen anyone suggest the money hunter got that came from those countries.. Was there pay for view?


36 posted on 01/14/2023 3:17:32 PM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: MAGA2017

There is a sub built by the Danes (I think) that uses fuel cells for power and is so quiet that it can routinely pop up in the middle of US carrier groups. The US has borrowed it to study it.


37 posted on 01/14/2023 4:05:32 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (DemocRats have placed stronger chains on Blacks than the slave masters of old ever forged.)
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To: TexasGator

Have they integrated the gals on the subs? I know the US experience was that the first gal integrated onto our subs was soon discovered with the Chief of Boat who was laying more pipe than American Water Works. A scene no doubt regularly repeated in out woke sub force.


38 posted on 01/14/2023 4:23:05 PM PST by MSF BU
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To: TexasGator
Everything was X25: excluded from automatic 25 year downgrade and declassification.”

The guys who I know who left long after I departed the subservice said they were briefed on BLINDMAN'S BLUFF.

Something about no comments were allowed....

I see the book was like $30 on Amazon and less than $5 on WALMART so I ordered the Walmart one so I can read it again.

YOUTUBE History Channel on BLIND MAN'S BLUFF

A few years ago I was in the airplane hangar working on a home bult RV10 airplane. One day a fellow stopped by that I thought I had never seen before. It turns out he did pre-patrol briefs at SUBLANT about the time I went there so I probably did see him then.

We had some very good conversations about those briefs... but I never saw him again.

39 posted on 01/14/2023 5:46:03 PM PST by politicianslie (Genocide with vaxxxxxxines is EASY. The fools get in line and then their relatives bury them. Easy!)
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To: MAGA2017

Great story thanks for posting!

Love stories about the former “Great” Britain’s military machismo!


40 posted on 01/14/2023 6:51:53 PM PST by Cen-Tejas
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