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To: mountainfolk
Husband and I went to a conservative affair in New Jersey years ago and met a monsignor who told us he was involved in interviewing applicants for a seminary. He personally had rejected several homosexuals and that there was an ongoing effort by the communists to infiltrate seminaries with their applicants.

I’m not Catholic myself, but I’ve long thought that the media and the homosexual Left were coordinating an attack on the Catholic Church, and that the church was getting an undeserved bad rap. What really convinced me was the occasional discovery of not just an individual homosexual pedophile priest here or there, but organized groups of them who were meeting together in secret. I had also heard many years ago that Catholic seminaries (as well as protestant seminaries) were seeing a sudden surge in applications by applicants who were eventually discovered to be practicing homosexuals.

I think this method of attack is similar to how the “woke” Left has now wormed its way into the management of virtually every company or institution that were long considered American icons, such as Disney, to cite one. Like with what has happened to Disney, the “woke” Left has figured out that if they can gain control of such an institution and then begin to pervert it, no matter how conservatives respond it will result in the destruction of that institution (which is their real goal). If conservatives recoil at the stench of “wokeness”, and begin fighting back and boycotting it, then they may well succeed in destroying that company (or other institution) in the process. If, on the other hand, conservatives just sit back and leave it alone, then the “woke” management will just crank the “wokeness” up to 11, distorting a previous American icon into a perverse, unrecognizable mess, effectively destroying it as well. It’s “they win, we lose” no matter how we respond.

They’re doing the same with the churches, trying to force us into an “if you don’t destroy it, we will” corner from which we can’t win. Even so, I’ll take the route of trying to fight back every time, because at least that offers a possibility of winning, no matter how slim. The key is to not just unleash our unbridled fury on the organization that they are corrupting, but to be strategic about it. It’s like trying to rid a house of termites: You can burn the house down (which will get rid of the house along with the termites), or you can be more surgical and try to just remove the termites while preserving the structure.

65 posted on 01/24/2023 8:03:23 AM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: noiseman

I believe that your assessment regarding the Catholic Church gay priest situation is exactly what was and is happening to dilute and destroy the clerical structure that Catholics have depended on for guidance and maintaince of our religion for centuries. A friend of the family was searching for a seminary to enter to pursue his ambition of becoming a Catholic priest. He eventually gave up as he became aware of the prevalence of gay individuals in each place he checked out. I think that the church is slowly regaining respect among individuals who want a solid religious foundation of truly dedicated religious souls serving Christ for the benefit of mankind. I do not engage in tit for tat religion discussions on line. I do not care at all for any of it and am quite secure in what I believe. I know that close to fatal damage has been done within the Catholic Church by clergy and others. Our universities and schools have become compromised to fit modernist notions of how everything relating to spiritual pursuits is no longer applicable to new generations. The Catholic Church will survive, as will other denominations but persecution is always behind the scenes and the communist, globalist, etc will never give up the devil’s war to divide and conquer all believers in God.


72 posted on 01/24/2023 9:11:50 AM PST by mountainfolk
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